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One or both of Skill/Ladd can play in your top 6. Ladd can play there now - he's really being underutilized in Chicago.
 
I am not sold on Ladd or Skille. Skille is more of an unknown, but Ladd doesn't seem like anything more than a 15G 45-50Pts forward.
 
Trying to describe either Skille or Ladd as legitimately tough or even super-gritty is a stretch.
 
zeke said:
Trying to describe either Skille or Ladd as legitimately tough or even super-gritty is a stretch.
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Both are willing to play a physical game and have the talent to put up some points. Not talking Getzlaf here, but certainly the type of player that can compliment a scoring line.
 
Both players are high picks, but at this point I'm just not so convinced about their 'scoring' part ... and I'm not all that convinced about the 'gritty' part neither. And Ladd a lot more so than Skille.

I guess it's another example how over-rated draft picks can be.
 
number17 said:
Both players are high picks, but at this point I'm just not so convinced about their 'scoring' part ... and I'm not all that convinced about the 'gritty' part neither. And Ladd a lot more so than Skille.

I guess it's another example how over-rated draft picks can be.
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Ladd would easily be top 6 in Toronto, i think he would put up Ponikarovsky numbers but actaully bring a physical element to the game, and actaully head to the net unlike Poni.

Skille is an enigma. Cause the argument can be made that he hasnt earned the right to play with the big club, yet at the same time you can argue that he hasnt been given a legit chance due to the talent up front and cap issues. Overall i would'nt be opposed to dealing him but Chicago is certainly not desperate to give him away either
 
really? I thought I'd be more ready to trade Ladd than Skille if I were Chicago.

Not having seen Skille play, and not having seen Ladd much neither, what's your scouting report on these 2 guys?

I really don't see much in Ladd ... if given top 6 minutes, I see him as a 20G 45Pts forward max ... yes, he may be more physical than Poni, but if I have to give up something for such a small upgrade, I think I'd pass.
 
From Dreger:

Hawks have presented the Leafs and other teams with different trad options. Sopel and a prospect, or Sopel and draft pick. Stay tuned.
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As long as Sopel (or finger) is sent down, I'd have no problem taking a player/pick to take on his contract.
 
leafman101 said:
From Dreger:



As long as Sopel (or finger) is sent down, I'd have no problem taking a player/pick to take on his contract.
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The star had something like Exelby being sent or Frogren as to what the leafs are sending their way.

I would prefer Exelby as at least he can play now (sopel) and I woul dgive Schenn a good 2 weeks with the Marlies to get back his confidence... but only 2 weeks then bring him right back in.

Anyone else catch that Bobby Ryan turned down a 3 year deal... will he be a UFA or RFA next year.

I'd love to get Bobby Ryan to play on the top line with Kessel..

Ryan UFA Kessel
Poni Kadri Hagman
 
number17 said:
really? I thought I'd be more ready to trade Ladd than Skille if I were Chicago.

Not having seen Skille play, and not having seen Ladd much neither, what's your scouting report on these 2 guys?

I really don't see much in Ladd ... if given top 6 minutes, I see him as a 20G 45Pts forward max ... yes, he may be more physical than Poni, but if I have to give up something for such a small upgrade, I think I'd pass.
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If given the ice time which he would get in Toronto I see Andrew Ladd as a Darcy Tucker in his prime type player.

And yeah., im more willing to move Skille just because Ladd right now is a big part of a cup contending team playing on a line with Madden and Byfuglien.

When all healthy i expect something like this

Kane Toews Hossa
Sharp Bickell Versteeg
Ladd Madden Buff
Eager Fraser Kopecky

The glaring hole seemingly there is Bickell, since Bolland is out, but he has played well in the recent hot streak that the Hawks have been on. If he slows Versteeg or Sharp can play center, but neither are naturals at it.

What about

Skille, Sopel, 2nd

for

Stajan, Exelby

Assuming this works cap wise
 
Forget about all those guys.

We should try to pry Beach from Chicago.

He's exactly the kind of "truculent" (hate that word) player with a ton of upside that Burke is looking for.
 
If you "pace" these numbers...

2007–08 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 56gp 20g 26a 46pts (82gp 29g 38a 67pts)

you'll see he has already proven to be more than that.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
Forget about all those guys.

We should try to pry Beach from Chicago.

He's exactly the kind of "truculent" (hate that word) player with a ton of upside that Burke is looking for.
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Beach goes nowhere.

He is the cheap answer to the question of how does CHicago replace the expensive key forward they just dealt.
 
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