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Krustchev said:
If anything, Tampa is the exception that proves the rule. The bigger skilled team will beat the smaller skilled team most of the time, in almost every sport - top athletes today tend to be big and skilled, IN ALL SPORTS. Not sure why you want to deny this. Are you an advocate for the vertically challenged? Do you do pro bono work for them? BTW, I'm fine with drafting Clayton Keller 9th overall as he appears to be an exceptional talent but you can't have a top 6 full of players under 6'0" and expect to be a serious Cup contender on a consistent basis.
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And the most skilled team will beat the lesser skilled team most of the time, in almost every sport, no matter the size.

Skill is our biggest need right now, size is second.
 
GrandWazoo said:
And the most skilled team will beat the lesser skilled team most of the time, in almost every sport, no matter the size.

Skill is our biggest need right now, size is second.
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No, a coaching change is our biggest need right now. Everything else is meaningless until that happens.
 
Here's the bottom line: other NHL teams seem capable of finding players who are skilled AND big, while we seem only capable of finding players who are either big (and unskilled) or skilled (and small), but not a combination of both, and this is a problem.
 
GrandWazoo said:
And the most skilled team will beat the lesser skilled team most of the time, in almost every sport, no matter the size.

Skill is our biggest need right now, size is second.
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Pretty much everyone in the NHL, or at the top level of any sport, has skill, so big and skilled will beat small and skilled most of the time.
 
Krustchev said:
Pretty much everyone in the NHL, or at the top level of any sport, has skill, so big and skilled will beat small and skilled most of the time.
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That's not true, there is a huge disparity of skills between teams. All the teams in the finals this year have way more skills than us and that's why they are there, more than they slight size advantage.
 
Krustchev said:
Here's the bottom line: other NHL teams seem capable of finding players who are skilled AND big, while we seem only capable of finding players who are either big (and unskilled) or skilled (and small), but not a combination of both, and this is a problem.
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We somehow managed to find Max and Alex. But we need more, I agree.
 
GrandWazoo said:
That's not true, there is a huge disparity of skills between teams. All the teams in the finals this year have way more skills than us and that's why they are there, more than they slight size advantage.
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Except I never said that we were small and skilled. We're just mostly small. Going forward, we need to find players who are big and skilled. If other teams can, so can we, unless Timmins is so incompetent at what he does . . .
 
Krustchev said:
Both in the first round, just saying, so it's a bit easier. Other teams seem capable of finding skill/size combo. players in later rounds.
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They do? Like who? There is a few exceptions (Benn, Lucic) but it's incredibly rare, like less than 1% chance of getting one.
 
Krustchev said:
Except I never said that we were small and skilled. We're just mostly small. Going forward, we need to find players who are big and skilled. If other teams can, so can we, unless Timmins is so incompetent at what he does . . .
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But you said every team in the league has skill, that would include us as well.
 
GrandWazoo said:
But you said every team in the league has skill, that would include us as well.
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Did I say we have no skill? No. Did I say we lack big players with skill? Yes. Do I think we can win a Cup with mostly small, skilled players? No. If you believe we can, that's fine . . . but it's highly unlikely based on the direction that the NHL, and most other parts, have been and are headed in. I can't stop you from being a reality denier. It's everyone's right.
 
Krustchev said:
Did I say we have no skill? No. Did I say we lack big players with skill? Yes. Do I think we can win a Cup with mostly small, skilled players? No. If you believe we can, that's fine . . . but it's highly unlikely based on the direction that the NHL, and most other parts, have been and are headed in. I can't stop you from being a reality denier. It's everyone's right.
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No, and I also believe that we can't win with a big team without skills. We need both and I won't turn either away. If Reway can play and improve our PP and scores 20 goals for us, I won't deny him a spot just because he's small.
 
GrandWazoo said:
No, and I also believe that we can't win with a big team without skills. We need both and I won't turn either away. If Reway can play and improve our PP and scores 20 goals for us, I won't deny him a spot just because he's small.
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I don't think anyone thinks we can. We need to find skilled players with size, like other teams seem to be able to. And I'm fine with keeping Reway if he's good enough but you need can't have 4 midgets in the top 6.
 
Krustchev said:
Here's the bottom line: other NHL teams seem capable of finding players who are skilled AND big, while we seem only capable of finding players who are either big (and unskilled) or skilled (and small), but not a combination of both, and this is a problem.
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Wheres Chad Kilger when we need him.. LOL
 
Krustchev said:
I don't think anyone thinks we can. We need to find skilled players with size, like other teams seem to be able to. And I'm fine with keeping Reway if he's good enough but you need can't have 4 midgets in the top 6.
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No, you can't have 4 midgets in your top 6, but we won't. Max and AG are big players. Gallagher and Reway are tiny. Pleks is slightly under average (although not a midget by any stretch).

Our flaw right now is that we're simply lacking a player to be in our top-6. Neither DD nor Eller are top-6 guys. It might be Carr or Andrighetto, but we don't know. Maybe we sign Okposo, Ladd, Backes, or Staal. But we lack talent in our top-6 right now, so if we can bring in anyone who is a top-6 talent, I'll take them. Sure, if they're big guys that's a bonus, but we're not to the point of being able to turn away skill.
 
I think that most of the pessimism surrounding this acquisition has less to do with the player himself and more to do with our fear about how he will be utilized by Therrien. We all want more offensive minded players but I'm not sure Therrien does. If Reway ever makes a play like Drouin did last night where, in the attempt to create a scoring chance he wound up costing his team a goal against, Therrien is going to crucify him. We all know this. So we're either going to end up with a player who's creativity gets beaten out of him and doesn't score much or we'll have a player who gets benched to the point where he becomes a non-asset that we give away for nothing.

As I said earlier, until you get rid of Therrien nothing good can happen.
 
Like UW said, we're missing a whole 2nd line, we can afford to have one small skilled guy in there if the other two are bigger guys. We can even afford up to two small guys if they are skilled enough, it doesn't seem to bother Kane and Panarin or Johnson and Kucherov.
 
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