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BeLeafer said:
I guess the Harris government didn't leave much to **** but this guy is going to screw what's left of the good of this city. Just sit back and watch what he does with the remaininng burnt corpse that gets overrun by commuters who live in Harris' low density, public transportation-free suburbs.
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And while slowing the growth of expenditures in the province will be nice, especially as the economy is growing, he's going to waste whatever fiscal flexibility he has with Tax cuts.

Also somehow try to keep all his promises without the 6 billion dollars in carbon tax revenue his predecessor had been counting on.

Things aren't going to get better, just different.
 
I'm not sure that we'll necessarily see a lot of programs being slashed.

At least not right away, I guess. Eventually Doug's financial mismanagement will make cuts necessary.

But to start, what I'm expecting is:


  • A dumb-ass environmental policy

  • A whole bunch of dumb-ass tax cuts that will further balloon the deficit

  • Non-stop warring with the media, and a Trump-style "fake news" campaign from Doug

  • Never-ending personal and political scandals involving the Ford family

  • Blatant nepotism & corruption from Doug, for the benefit of his family's business

  • Further extension of the dumbass, unnecessary, ruinously expensive Scarborough subway at the expense of all other transit projects

  • An attempt to scrap the existing municipal playbook, and replace it with a US-style "strong mayor" system

  • A war on public-sector unions and employees

  • A search for waste/"efficiencies" that turns up nothing, but a bunch of stupidly insignificant cuts for show (like Rob's "no more free sandwiches at council meetings" policy)


At this point, I'm just hopeful that nature will take care of Doug the same way it did his brother.
 
LeafGm said:
I'm not sure that we'll necessarily see a lot of programs being slashed.

At least not right away, I guess. Eventually Doug's financial mismanagement will make cuts necessary.

But to start, what I'm expecting is:


  • A dumb-ass environmental policy

  • A whole bunch of dumb-ass tax cuts that will further balloon the deficit

  • Non-stop warring with the media, and a Trump-style "fake news" campaign from Doug

  • Never-ending personal and political scandals involving the Ford family

  • Blatant nepotism & corruption from Doug, for the benefit of his family's business

  • Further extension of the dumbass, unnecessary, ruinously expensive Scarborough subway at the expense of all other transit projects

  • An attempt to scrap the existing municipal playbook, and replace it with a US-style "strong mayor" system

  • A war on public-sector unions and employees

  • A search for waste/"efficiencies" that turns up nothing, but a bunch of stupidly insignificant cuts for show (like Rob's "no more free sandwiches at council meetings" policy)


At this point, I'm just hopeful that nature will take care of Doug the same way it did his brother.
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I agree with all of the above.

Ontario is going to get what they voted for sadly.

I mean the guy didn't even pretend to make sure his campaign promises added up. The Fords are Canada's Trumps, minus the blatant xenophobia and race-baiting, fortunately.

Good thing I'm moving to Nova Scotia soon.
 
However pissed I am about the PCs getting 20% of the electorate to vote for them, these people are not going to get what they deserve. The PCs have a very limited mandate, as they ran on a platform to actually not cut services and to hire more teachers, nurses and doctors.

Of course, this will be utterly disregarded and they'll set out to slash the shit out of stuff. It's sad that voters can't sniff the bullshit around 'efficiencies' -- particularly from someone who hasn't the talent run a hot dog truck profitably.

It's the magic money tree! We're going to cut taxes, fund cheap beer and gas and these billions will be paid for by the managerial genius that is Doug Ford.
 
BeLeafer said:
However pissed I am about the PCs getting 20% of the electorate to vote for them, these people are not going to get what they deserve. The PCs have a very limited mandate, as they ran on a platform to actually not cut services and to hire more teachers, nurses and doctors.

Of course, this will be utterly disregarded and they'll set out to slash the shit out of stuff. It's sad that voters can't sniff the bullshit around 'efficiencies' -- particularly from someone who hasn't the talent run a hot dog truck profitably.

It's the magic money tree! We're going to cut taxes, fund cheap beer and gas and these billions will be paid for by the managerial genius that is Doug Ford.
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Nah.

You can hear Doug right now. This is a historic win, he has a clear mandate to undo all the bad(AKA, everything) that Wynne has done to ruin the province, they have a huge majority and everything they do is for the people.
 
Last night they said 52% turned out. Surprised to see 58%. I guess there were a lot of pissed off rural and outer suburbanites. That's up a fair margin from recent provincial turnouts.

Total electorate support: 23.5%

In terms of non-voters, if you want to claim that the people are behind you, you can only count those who bothered to vote for you.
 
BeLeafer said:
Last night they said 52% turned out. Surprised to see 58%. I guess there were a lot of pissed off rural and outer suburbanites. That's up a fair margin from recent provincial turnouts.

Total electorate support: 23.5%

In terms of non-voters, if you want to claim that the people are behind you, you can only count those who bothered to vote for you.
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There are those who support you, those who are against you, and those who couldn't care less who was leading them.

The latter makes up a pretty big chuck of the electorate, and honestly, even if they don't support or oppose you, they are along for the ride.

Out of those who actually cared enough to vote, he, and Trudeau, and Harper before him, Wynne before Ford, all have a mandate, because that is determined by seat count, not how many people would rather stay home and play games, eat food, have sex, whatever they decided to do that was more important than voting.
 
Up next, Quebec Election, where the liberals have ruled for the past 13 of 15 years, currently trailing in the polls to their more Right/center aligned opponents.

Then Kenny in Alberta.

Looks like the long peace is over, Trudeau will have his hands full.
 
Altair said:
Up next, Quebec Election, where the liberals have ruled for the past 13 of 15 years, currently trailing in the polls to their more Right/center aligned opponents.

Then Kenny in Alberta.

Looks like the long peace is over, Trudeau will have his hands full.
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I think Trudeau's popularity will benefit from having more provincial conservative governments in power. When Trudeau is sparring with Doug because Doug refuses to do anything at all to address climate change, I think that will be good for his popularity. But we'll see. Even if it helps his polling, it will make his life governing much more difficult.
 
Wayward DP said:
I think Trudeau's popularity will benefit from having more provincial conservative governments in power. When Trudeau is sparring with Doug because Doug refuses to do anything at all to address climate change, I think that will be good for his popularity. But we'll see. Even if it helps his polling, it will make his life governing much more difficult.
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It's one thing to be sparing with Ford.

It's another when he's sparing with Ford, with Kenny,with Pallister with Moe, with Horgan and Legault(for separate reasons with those two I'm sure)that's what, 85 percent of the country?
 
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