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Because CT asked nicely in the other thread, I'll respond here:

Is it a love affair?

I don't like him at all, I'm just able to be objective about what he's done well and what he hasn't.

He is unquestionably the worst thing this country has ever put forward as a PM. Totally unqualified by any measure to fill that position.

Except his performance hasn't been the worst in the history of the country, again by objective measure. As for his qualification...what is the qualification to win a popularity contest? Seriously. He's university educated (BA & BE), held a real person job before entering politics, was a MP and leader of his political party for 7-8 years before becoming PM. Whatever you feel about him personally, that's not out of step with the pre PM qualifications of other people who have held the office. Harper had a BA and MA from the university of Calgary economics department (which has a fairly infamous, if boring reputation among economists....as they have a very, very specific ideological leaning, which is why it's usually ranked somewhere around being the ~300th best econ department internationally, and fringy top 10 in Canada) and was a reform think tank policy wonk until becoming a fairly unsuccessful MP (losing 2 of 3 races he ran in initially) before rising to the top of the whole unite the right bit in the early 00's. He had about as much, and tbh less successful parliamentary experience at the time he was elected PM as Trudeau did. If the difference between qualified and unqualified as PM is owning a MA from a poorly regarded right wing economics department....well fuck, I think your bias might be showing.

All of that is of course an aside to the fact that you would vote for Poliviere tomorrow, who has literally passed a single fucking bill in 20 years as a Canadian politician and only sponsored 7 in total. He took ~10 years to get his BA, and has no professional experience outside of politics. If we're talking about unqualified to be PM, that's it right there and you would vote for him, so fucking spare me.

How do you defend someone whose fiscal plan is "don't worry about the budget "the budget will balance itself"?

Except that wasn't his budget plan, that's a single quote take from a single press conference and as I've shown you already, we've returned to a similar debt to gdp level as we were pre Trudeau. The Canadian balance sheet just isn't what you weirdos want to pretend it is.

The only countries that even know Canada exists are those that this moral delinquent continues to rain down OUR money upon while letting our own live on the streets. We are a laughing stock.

Stop getting your political opinions from facebook

From this past November: https://www.ipsos.com/en-ca/halifax-report-2024-influence

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Has the economy performed well?? Not according to The Fraser Institute (https://www.fraserinstitute.org/com...er-misleading-canadians-about-economic-growth).

lol, the Fraser institute eh? Oh noes. But I'll humour you by taking an article written by two of their interns seriously for a moment.

Did you read the research paper the Op-Ed was the crib notes for? lol, we both know you didn't. If you did, you'd see that I already addressed exactly what they claim the cause of the problem is

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It's not because of high corporate taxes, we're mid pack in the G7 in that. It's mostly because we've allowed our economy to become "3 corporations in a trench coat" and we put up moats instead of fostering competition, but that's not a Liberal specific problem. None of the political parties are interested in addressing that.


Your delusional if you think this dim bulb of a PM "handled" Trump.

Trump himself is saying that Trudeau (or Chrystia Freeland, if you prefer the specific person running the negotiations) handled him. Who else was in charge when the USMCA was signed? That's the deal Trump is now claiming is the worst deal ever for the US. If it's such a terrible deal for the US, how else are we to interpret this other than the last time we got into trade discussions with the US, Trudeau/Freeland bent him over?
 
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It really does take a special (needs) type of cognitive dissonance (I could have chosen a less polite term) to think Trudeau is a "dim bulb" yet not be able to see through Donald J. Drumpf, and to think Trudeau is "totally unqualified" to be PM, yet support Pepe.

In fact, and I know I must have dreamed this yesterday because no one in their right mind would possibly type out these words on a public forum, but this individual may even have insinuated that Trump could be the "second coming" of the Messiah. Absolute 100% evidence of social media rotting a person's brain from the inside out.
 
Very long. tl/dw (didn’t watch?) -this comes across as a tour de force. Or maybe it’s just me getting my hopes up.

Mooch being there adds to the awesomeness of it.


View: https://www.youtube.com/live/U5u2zmpvBBk?si=L1EklnBWpevyJdKQ


Almost all of the way through this and all I can say about it is that if Carney can't make the "old" politics and economics work for us, there really isn't anything left to do aside from a new politics of "eat the rich" redistribution. Carney is the "final boss" of canadian style neoliberal market based economics. If he can't make it work in a way that sorts out the cost of living, makes housing attainable, etc all while growing the economy and making it more internationally competitive, then no one is coming down the pipe who can. He's the last guy left who can make me buy this as an option.
 
Almost all of the way through this and all I can say about it is that if Carney can't make the "old" politics and economics work for us, there really isn't anything left to do aside from a new politics of "eat the rich" redistribution. Carney is the "final boss" of canadian style neoliberal market based economics. If he can't make it work in a way that sorts out the cost of living, makes housing attainable, etc all while growing the economy and making it more internationally competitive, then no one is coming down the pipe who can. He's the last guy left who can make me buy this as an option.
My feeling is we need to end up in a Nordic model economic framework if we want any true stability but I don't know how we get there politically. For it to work one needs to sort of let go of the baller lifestyle goals sold so well by America and I don't know if enough Canadians can do that.
 
i mean i still think he wins but it's amazing how he's completely fallen apart since trudeau dropped out. every suspicion i had of his character 100% confirmed.

Every poll released in the last few weeks that includes Mark Carney by name instead of just "insert Liberal here" has Carney ahead. A mainstream poll released yesterday has Carney up 3 points.

It sure looks like Pierre is an unlikeable, mostly incompetent twat who ran up huge polling numbers solely on the back of Trudeau being well past his expiration date and is about to suffer a hilarious, historic defeat. Remember, Pierre needs to out poll Carney by a few points just to overcome the CPC's issue with voting efficiency. Winning the 2000km from Kenora to Chilliwack with 75% of the vote doesn't earn any extra seats.
 
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