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RCMP saying they are scaling down the search in northern Manitoba.

So this is perhaps a clever ruse, seeing if the kids are still monitoring the news, maybe luring them out in the open if they think the manhunt is mostly over.

Or the RCMP really just have no clue where the hell they are and aren't having tactical teams hiking through the woods for weeks on end
 
It is a really weird story. Two normal appearing teenagers go on a killing spree. There has to be more to it. I know some tried to make out that this was some racist thing, but they killed whites so that isn't a good angle.

It would be nice to know what happened.
 
yeah, I don't say this often, but I'm with count on this.

something just does not seem to add up. just a totally bizarre sequence of events, from start to finish.
 
Does it really have to be that complicated?

Maybe they're the classic incel/Columbine shooter/suicidal social reject types (I know I'm judging a book by its cover, but that's what they look like in the security cam photos distributed), and going on a killing spree and then evading the authorities by disappearing into the wilderness seemed to them like a wonderful way to go out in a blaze of glory.
 
LeafGm said:
Does it really have to be that complicated?

Maybe they're the classic incel/Columbine shooter/suicidal social reject types (I know I'm judging a book by its cover, but that's what they look like in the security cam photos distributed), and going on a killing spree and then evading the authorities by disappearing into the wilderness seemed to them like a wonderful way to go out in a blaze of glory.
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except they didn't really go on much of a 'spree'. they've been charged with a single count of second degree murder, and are just suspected in the murder of the couple in BC. they then proceeded to have a bunch of apparently normal interactions with average citizens, including ones where they could have continued their spree and stolen a new truck, etc.

and we don't actually know that they've disappeared into the wilderness. when their car was recently searched, apparently there was not a shred of camping gear or anything of that ilk.

and the classic incel/Columbine shooter types generally have a) some sort of grand plan; b) some sort of grievance with society; and c) usually try to go out in a bang of glory, where everyone knows what they did. none of those elements are really present here. there's no manifesto. there is nothing that can easily explain their choice of victim. there's not really much in the way of evidence, that we know of.

things just don't add up for me. I'm not saying there isn't a simple explanation, just based on the publicly available information something still seems off, or missing.
 
LeafGm said:
Does it really have to be that complicated?

Maybe they're the classic incel/Columbine shooter/suicidal social reject types (I know I'm judging a book by its cover, but that's what they look like in the security cam photos distributed), and going on a killing spree and then evading the authorities by disappearing into the wilderness seemed to them like a wonderful way to go out in a blaze of glory.
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If that were the case, they wouldn't just kill a white professor from a BC uni. There usually is also some manifesto etc. It is just an odd story that might never have an ending.
 
These aren't "normal" teenagers at all. What a terrible take by count.

The one kid is a complete headcase (known to have Nazi equipment) and clearly shows major incel traits.
 
CaptainBolduke said:
These aren't "normal" teenagers at all. What a terrible take by count.

The one kid is a complete headcase (known to have Nazi equipment) and clearly shows major incel traits.
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"appearing" dumb ass. There was nothing that showed they would act this way (assuming they did kill anyone). I mean you are a headcase but I would be shocked if you went out and killed anyone.
 
I mean you are a headcase but I would be shocked if you went out and killed anyone.
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uncus said:
They should call in mantracker to find these two.
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Mantracker only works because to win the contestants need to get to a certain point by a certain time. And even then he doesn't get the contestants every time.

If mantracker was a show of just finding people in the woods who don't want to be found, he would never win.
 
TheCountofMonteCristo said:
"appearing" dumb ass. There was nothing that showed they would act this way (assuming they did kill anyone). I mean you are a headcase but I would be shocked if you went out and killed anyone.
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We listed the red flags for you. You're ignoring them cause they seem like good ol' white kids to you.

You've played this card before.

Go away. You're irreverent now.
 
CaptainBolduke said:
We listed the red flags for you. You're ignoring them cause they seem like good ol' white kids to you.

You've played this card before.

Go away. You're irreverent now.
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Unlike you, the colour of the skin of an alleged criminal makes no difference to me. I judge people on their actions. Right now, they look bad but until the whole story is out, no one will know. Whatever "white nationalist" stuff might have been on their computers is irrelevant if they only killed white individuals. It would be relevant IF they killed non whites. These killings, if they did it, seem extremely random and not planned out.

However, you have your narrative that because they were white, they must be guilty. Carry on.
 
Whatever "white nationalist" stuff might have been on their computers is irrelevant if they only killed white individuals.
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I think that's a bit of a myopic view of the significance of white nationalism ideology in 2019 man. White nationalist ideology isn't about the "race wars" anymore, and that's before accepting the fact that "white nationalist" ideology is, in a lot of cases, cover fire for flat out sociopathic tendencies and beliefs that white nationalism is just sympathetic towards.
 
TheCountofMonteCristo said:
Unlike you, the colour of the skin of an alleged criminal makes no difference to me. I judge people on their actions. Right now, they look bad but until the whole story is out, no one will know. Whatever "white nationalist" stuff might have been on their computers is irrelevant if they only killed white individuals. It would be relevant IF they killed non whites. These killings, if they did it, seem extremely random and not planned out.

However, you have your narrative that because they were white, they must be guilty. Carry on.
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Another terrible and outdated take. This shouldn't bother you this much.

Again, ignoring the incel tendencies. Carry on.
 
what publicly available information is there that suggests the two B.C. teens had "incel tendencies"?

what publicly available information is there that suggests that either or both of the teens were Nazis, white nationalists, etc? (to my knowledge, there was one story about how one of the kids found Nazi regalia 'cool' or something of that ilk)

what publicly available information is there that suggests any kind of motive for this?

and what publicly available information is there suggesting that these two were part of any larger organized hate group?

I'm not saying the kids aren't white nationalists and didn't commit any of the murders. But I am saying that I have seen pretty much zero evidence that supports some of the inferences made above.

ME, I am legit curious to know what information there is substantiating any Naziism link. and the nutter parents.

I guess there are just so many unanswered questions and so much information that I don't have that I find it hard to draw any of these definitive conclusions. It seems as though everyone has accepted that these kids killed three people, which may be true. That's really the only speculative thing that I think I have bought into in all of this. But it's not like there has been a ton of evidence regardless.
 
ME, I am legit curious to know what information there is substantiating any Naziism link. and the nutter parents.
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google "Alan Schmegelsky", and strap in. The old man is very imbalanced.

As for the Nazi stuff, that's a bit more tenuous but a bit of a red flag unto itself

Alan Schmegelsky said that his son took him to an Army Surplus store eight months ago in his hometown of Port Alberni, B.C., and that Bryer was excited about the Nazi items there.

"I was disgusted and dragged him out," Schmegelsky told Canadian Press. "My grandparents fled the Ukraine with three small children during the Second World War."
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