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Wayward DP said:

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This is laughable, but Preston Manning's threat in this is pretty explicit:


Voters, particularly in central and Atlantic Canada, need to recognize that a vote for the Carney Liberals is a vote for Western secession – a vote for the breakup of Canada as we know it. If you couldn’t care less about the concerns or actions of Western Canada, then ignore this unsolicited advice. But understand that separation of the resources-based economic engine of Western Canada from what’s left of the rest of Canada will have dire economic and social consequences for the latter.

Secondly, Western political leaders need to provide a mechanism for recognizing and addressing the growing support for Western secession in an orderly and democratic manner, so that its support and leadership are not surrendered to extremists or eccentrics for lack of thoughtful consideration of how best to proceed. Initially, this mechanism need not be a Western secession party after the Quebec model of the Parti or Bloc Québécois, but rather a democratic forum to first consider various alternative courses of action.

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If there is a genuinely new federal government after April 28, then the agenda of that conference should be twofold: first, to constructively address ways and means of co-operating with that government to redress the damage done to Western Canada by a decade of Liberal neglect and misrule, and second, to consider how best to negotiate new and better Canada-U.S. trade relations.

But if the Liberals, employing the fear of U.S. President Donald Trump to secure the support of easily frightened voters, should be returned to office, then the agenda of the conference should be to consider ways and means of peacefully seceding.

The next prime minister of Canada, if it remains Mark Carney, would then be identified in the history books, tragically and needlessly, as the last prime minister of a united Canada.
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TL;DR - "Voters in Central and Eastern Canada had better meekly acquiesce to Alberta & Saskatchewan's preferred choice of Federal government and our desire to deepen our integration & relations with Trump's USA, or Western Canada will separate."

The second part of that is pretty critical and gives away the game for the likes of Manning, Smith & Poilievre. It's not just about changing the government, tacking farther over to the right or changing tax policy. These people want some form of either cultural or official Canschluss with MAGA America.
 
LeafGm said:
This is laughable, but Preston Manning's threat in this is pretty explicit:





TL;DR - "Voters in Central and Eastern Canada had better meekly acquiesce to Alberta & Saskatchewan's preferred choice of Federal government and our desire to deepen our integration & relations with Trump's USA, or Western Canada will separate."

The second part of that is pretty critical and gives away the game for the likes of Manning, Smith & Poilievre. It's not just about changing the government, tacking farther over to the right or changing tax policy. These people want some form of either cultural or official Canschluss with MAGA America.
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He keeps saying "western" when BC, Manitoba, and the two largest cities in Alberta want nothing to do with this.

I guess "Rural Prairie Idiots" doesn't sound inclusive enough though.
 

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lecoqsportif said:
‘K , but where can Nenshi win outside of Calgary and Edmonton? Lethbridge? Red Deer? K-country?
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Win Calgary and he wins the province. Danielle Smith's majority actually isn't that strong and the Alberta nutters have the same voter efficiency problems in Alberta than Pierre has nationally. You don't get more seats for winning Red Deer with 90% of the vote. Nenshi has a legit shot at winning imo. I remember him being pretty popular as mayor in Calgary when I was there despite him being pretty progressive by Alberta standards. Needs to peel 5 seats off of the UCP's 12 they won in 2023.
 
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