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Oh, the "brown" community will rally around Trudeau here and throw themselves in front of the bus. They know what the alternative is.
 
Altair said:
I'm of a opposite mind.

In 2015 people were voting for hope and change from the harper years. Massive youth turnout, plus weed and electoral reform.

2019, Trudeau is just another scandal plagued politician, doing the same nonsense every other politician has done, the weed roleout has been less than stellar, electoral reform is dead, and now this brownface?

I don't see young people really turning out in droves for trudeau. Old people will turn out in droves for scheer because old people are a really reliable voting bloc.
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If social media activity is any indication of how this is going to play out Im expecting it

A lot of woke youth despise Scheer and his ideology. For them there is no party affiliation its whoever is leading the pools at the time of their ballot or whoever needs a swing to take Scheer down
 
Artnes said:
If social media activity is any indication of how this is going to play out Im expecting it

A lot of woke youth despise Scheer and his ideology. For them there is no party affiliation its whoever is leading the pools at the time of their ballot or whoever needs a swing to take Scheer down
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Social media tends to attracts those who are already politically engaged.
 
Hopefully that blackface shit disabuses people who haven't been paying any attention of the notion that Squirt is a progressive.
 
Who thinks he's progressive?

Fwiw, apparently this picture has been known but sat upon since July. That's actually a pretty good piece of info to use to mitigate damage. Trudeau can mention the apology and fire back that the people using the picture against him don't actually care, if they care this would have come out in July and it wouldn't have been saved as an election season treat.

Funny enough, it might have had more effect then as well. His rally in the polls started about then.
 
I don't really care which brand of right wing assholes get the government but keeping Squirt on was a big mistake by the so-called Liberals. The polls may show them neck and neck (which is unbelievably damning given what an utter tool Sheer is), but there are going to be a pile of people they need to win sitting on their hands come election night. Top-line poll numbers are one thing, voter mobility is another. This just neutralized the fearmongering over Sheer.
 
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MindzEye said:
Who thinks he's progressive?

Fwiw, apparently this picture has been known but sat upon since July. That's actually a pretty good piece of info to use to mitigate damage. Trudeau can mention the apology and fire back that the people using the picture against him don't actually care, if they care this would have come out in July and it wouldn't have been saved as an election season treat.

Funny enough, it might have had more effect then as well. His rally in the polls started about then.
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It would be rather hypocritical of him to say that. The Liberals have been busy digging deep for old Conservative dirt.

In the long run I still don’t think it will have the same impact as it would have if the picture featured Sheer instead of Trudeau.
 
MindzEye said:
They can hang out with ontario conservatives at the pub then. Neither are showing up to vote in their 2015 numbers.
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This is true.

But that still goes from ontario being a slam dunk to a with a huge haul of seats to slight victory with the liberals just edging the conservatives.

We did the math before, the Liberals need a huge haul of ontario seats to make up for the losses they will face in Atlantic Canada, the praries and BC.

Quebec is still more or less in the bag, but with more and more disgruntled progressives staying home they might lose a lot of close races in ontario.
 
Good to see the bloom is off the rose around here. It's hard to hide when you campaign on the right. I never understand Liberals who forget the way they win -- campaign on the left, govern on the right. Not too many bright lights in the campaign office.
 
Altair said:
This is true.

But that still goes from ontario being a slam dunk to a with a huge haul of seats to slight victory with the liberals just edging the conservatives.

We did the math before, the Liberals need a huge haul of ontario seats to make up for the losses they will face in Atlantic Canada, the praries and BC.

Quebec is still more or less in the bag, but with more and more disgruntled progressives staying home they might lose a lot of close races in ontario.
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It's still looking like a slim Liberal majority or very strong minority with the greens or NDP's being kingmaker. I don't think this will move the needle much, people are pretty close to being entrenched. We're back to pre SNC numbers.
 
BeLeafer said:
Good to see the bloom is off the rose around here. It's hard to hide when you campaign on the right. I never understand Liberals who forget the way they win -- campaign on the left, govern on the right. Not too many bright lights in the campaign office.
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He campaigned on not buying the F-35, its the frontrunner in the open completion.

He campaigned on the environment, bought a pipeline.

He campaigned for electoral reform, flat out walked away from that.

I'm many ways he did govern on the right.
 
MindzEye said:
It's still looking like a slim Liberal majority or very strong minority with the greens or NDP's being kingmaker. I don't think this will move the needle much, people are pretty close to being entrenched. We're back to pre SNC numbers.
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No.... Liberals were around 37 percent pre SNC.

Conservatives were around 32.

Its a tie at 34 now, don't give me that.
 
Altair said:
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He campaigned on not buying the F-35, its the frontrunner in the open completion.

He campaigned on the environment, bought a pipeline.

He campaigned for electoral reform, flat out walked away from that.

I'm many ways he did govern on the right.
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Oh, they did it right last election. They campaigned left and most definitely governed on the right. Not sure why they've abandoned it this time.

Damn the NDP for not seeing the opening.
 
BeLeafer said:
Oh, they did it right last election. They campaigned left and most definitely governed on the right. Not sure why they've abandoned it this time.

Damn the NDP for not seeing the opening.
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They aren't campaigning on the left?

They are, but the NDP and Greens aren't falling for the 2015 outflank this time.
 
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