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No Excuses No Limits! The mother fucking goddamn season thread

Pretty iffy on that target tbh.

That 30 goal season on 15% shooting was clearly fluky, but outside of that he's still been able to be a solid 20/50 type guy at a very young age and without a ton of support. There could easily be room to get him back to that 30/70 level even without a fluke shooting percentage, just on age and development and linemates. His nerdies have taken a plunge this year, but in previous years were solid enough relative to team, and it doesn't seem like he was ultra sheltered either. Really hard to tell if he can actually handle C when playing on a team like the Sabres.

$7.1m caphit isn't huge, but still you need that guy to be a legit quality two-way 2nd liner at that price or I guess a one-way 1st liner would make it worth it too. Both of those upsides are possible but it's just really hard to tell on a shitty team like that. One hand a lot of Sabres blossom elsewhere (Eichel, Reinhart, Hagel), but otoh now the Avs are stuck with Mittelstadt as their #2C and he's probably just an ok 2nd line winger in reality.


some selected Center Doms for Reference:

TOR J.Tavares +16
BUF T.Thompson +13
NSH R.O'Reilly +8
NYI B.Nelson +6
OTT S.Pinto +4
NYI J.Pageau +3
OTT J.Norris +1
BUF R.McLeod +1
SEA Y.Gourde 0
DET J.Compher -1
DET A.Copp -1
MTL J.Evans -1
COL Mittelstadt -1
TOR M.Domi -1
BUF D.Cozens -2
OTT R.Greig -3
MTL R.Dvorak -3


Scouts better be doing their homework.
 
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You can't find a perfect Centre St the deadline, but Cozens playing on buffalo has to be taken I to major consideration when analyzing his impact.
There is a long list of players that when they leave buffalo they blossom.
He has the tools to be an impact player. And he could easily be next year's 2C with JT signed for 6 mill as 3C
 
seeing a bit of a different game from the matthews line with marner gone, I think you could get a 3C that is a decent option on offence but sound with size defensively and finally separate Matthews and Marner.

Knies Matthews Domi
Mcmann JT Nylander
Robertson/Patches 3CTrade. Marner
Holmberg Dewar Lorentz
 
Thats true.... so your third line is

Patch/Robertson JT Marner

Then you have to get a more 2C then 3C. Cuz I don't think Willy should go down to line 3. and I don't like Willy and Papi as much
 
7. Colorado made a run at Miller, but it never got close enough to threaten the Rangers deal. That’s why Casey Mittelstadt’s name is out there. Believe New Jersey, Ottawa and Toronto poked around, but not with much traction.

10. Toronto is seeing how high it can go at centre. Won’t be easy, and might not be able to shoot as high as a 2C, but the Leafs are looking. First-round picks matter, and they don’t have one in June.



They are definitely trying, big fuck up that they missed out on Frost for nothing.
 
funny that colorado already trying to unload mittelstadt tho.

especially since they believe so strongly in spreading money on depth rather than on an elite guy like rantanen.
 
I think it's kinda funny that O'Reilly is likely the legit best available center, will likely be cheaper than some of the lesser alternatives, and this board would absolutely hate it if we got him.
 
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