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OT: American Politics

Is the ad hominem always this strong ITT? I was ready for friendly banter while I put off working, but goodness
 
FlyGuy said:
The same thing every mainstream network also does?
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No, not the same. Which is why it cost Fox just under 800 million. If damaged parties could sue MSNBC for proveable lies and walk with near billion dollar settlements, they would be lined the fuck up to do just that.
FlyGuy said:
Trump is anti intel agencies running the country and dictating public policy.
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Eh...America's intel agencies maybe. There's a whole lot of evidence out there, the vast majority pre dating his foray into politics to suggest that he's been a captured asset for the FSB for yeeears.

www.theguardian.com

âThe perfect targetâ: Russia cultivated Trump as asset for 40 years â ex-KGB spy

The KGB ‘played the game as if they were immensely impressed by his personality’, Yuri Shvets, a key source for a new book, tells the Guardian
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

FlyGuy said:
Anti-authoritarianism.
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lol what? Is there a foreign strongman he doesn't jerk off as a "great leader"?
 
FlyGuy said:
Trump has not influenced my opinion as much as the response and retaliation to him has.
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This is just a bad way to look at the world mang. What other people think about him simply shouldn't matter to you. Judge him by his actions (all of them...he wasn't hatched in 2015).
 
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MindzEye said:
This is just a bad way to look at the world mang.
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I mean institutional, not individuals. Government infiltrating every avenue of expression and speech and directing the silencing of dissension and counter-opinion. Not even discreetly, either, completely unafraid and unabashed
 
FlyGuy said:
I mean institutional, not individuals.
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Same same.

Though I don't think we're going to agree on him being treated poor by American institutions. He's currently making an argument that he is immune from prosecution over his role in trying to overthrow the fucking government and it's being taken far, far more seriously that it deserves. Though I suspect that you and I aren't going to agree on what Jan 6th was either.
 
FlyGuy said:
I mean institutional, not individuals. Government infiltrating every avenue of expression and speech and directing the silencing of dissension and counter-opinion. Not even discreetly, either, completely unafraid and unabashed
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Or has society evolved where what you are calling "silencing dissension and counter-opinion" just people calling out things that are ass backward thinking and asshole traits.
 
trujaysfan said:
Or has society evolved where what you are calling "silencing dissension and counter-opinion" just people calling out things that are ass backward thinking and asshole traits.
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Yeah I’m sure that’s why the White House was sending specific tweets to twitter. Just because people were being mean
 
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