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OT: American Politics

zeke said:
People don't trust voting machines and you think they'll go along with online voting?

Do you not realize that the gop is trying yo get rid of voting machines and make all voting hand counted ballots?

And btw we just found out every single AT&T customer had their data hacked.
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It's "doable". But not the way Americans want it to be. You can't just slap up a federal website and call it a day. The Estonians had to digitize their entire government for voting online to be feasible (and still 50% of people prefer to go and put in a paper ballot in person).
 
zeke said:
People don't trust voting machines and you think they'll go along with online voting?

Do you not realize that the gop is trying yo get rid of voting machines and make all voting hand counted ballots?

And btw we just found out every single AT&T customer had their data hacked.
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This should’ve happened 20 years ago. So what we’re saying is that we should stick with voting machines and manual tabulation halfway through the 2020s?
 
LeafOfFaith said:
There is no but in this.

You make it online. For anyone who doesn’t have internet access, there are library computers, friends’ computers/phones, and they can just set up a voting booth for those people and for people who like standing in lines. This is the all time fucking stupidest “problem” that they can’t fix. Are people really supposed to keep voting in person and by mail until the end of time? When do we make the switch?
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When your society is actually digital.

It's not, and it's not close.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
This should’ve happened 20 years ago. So what we’re saying is that we should stick with voting machines and manual tabulation halfway through the 2020s?
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You have 20+ years of government digitization necessary, to be managed across every state in the union along a shared set of federal guidelines before it's remotely feasible.

And then, you get to explain away why it's cool to disenfranchise 5% of the population just because.
 
MindzEye said:
It's "doable". But not the way Americans want it to be. You can't just slap up a federal website and call it a day. The Estonians had to digitize their entire government for voting online to be feasible (and still 50% of people prefer to go and put in a paper ballot in person).
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I don’t know how voting for President is a state thing. Either way, if there was political will on either side, this would get done. It won’t stay this way forever, and theres no reason why now is any worse or harder than later.
 
Btw there is online voting in the US.

but only for some vets and some disabled. And mostly only in blue states.
 
zeke said:
People don't trust voting machines and you think they'll go along with online voting?

Do you not realize that the gop is trying yo get rid of voting machines and make all voting hand counted ballots?

And btw we just found out every single AT&T customer had their data hacked.
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I've got Annonymous winning the next election
 
manny said:
lol, good luck.

1. Those things never happened
2. If they did, Dotard wasn’t involved
3. If he was, it wasn’t his fault
4. If it was, Democrats do it too
5. If they don’t, those were the greatest things ever to happen God Bless Dotard!
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Covered most of it, yeah
 
FlyGuy said:
-Biden was willing to withhold from Israel to achieve his goals;
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Do you understand the difference between a quid pro quo for one’s personal gain, and conditioning aid (the conditions were generally compliance with human rights laws)?

No personal gain for Biden. No unwarranted political investigation carried out by a foreign country to exclusively benefit his reelection campaign. Pretty fundamental differences.
FlyGuy said:
Do you think it's appropriate to literally try to throw your chief political opponent in jail for trumped up charges?
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This is exactly what your boy promises to do and you seem goo goo ga ga over the idea.

I will explain to you how your Department of Justice currently works at a later date.
FlyGuy said:
-This is just false. Lots of evidence including tweets calling for peaceful protests, condemning those who were violent (extremely few), and pointing out that Pelosi is the one who denied extra security that day, with the capital police seemingly in on it due to woefully low number of officers on duty.
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I mean, this is all just patently false.
 
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