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OT: American Politics

CH1 said:
where do you get off lumping Olive Oil with this 2nd rate seed shit??? I mostly use olive and avocado oils....but will sheepishly use sunflower oil the next time I make mayo
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Because the study included olive oil! Plus the hardcore cultists demonize oilve oil too! Don't worry about it, I've got it covered. I got sick for a week last year and went full HL researching my way into a weird culty internet rabbit hole and I've never fully come out of it.
 
zeke said:
buying twitter is the first play he's made that he did for political reasons.
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btw, Lewis went on to say this about Musk eventually blowing himself up (in the same interview)

“I think he will. But he’s got a bigger fortress than Sam (Bankman-Fried), so it’s going to take more work to blow himself up. Still, you can see him moving in that direction. There’s a kind of self-destructive impulse there.”
A memory bubbles up and Lewis barks out a laugh. “There was a funny moment when Sam was talking about whether they wanted to invest in Twitter. He’d just had a conversation with Musk, and he says: ‘Man, he’s a weird dude.’” Another laugh. “I thought, if Sam Bankman-Fried calls you a weird dude – you are one weird dude.”
 
Preston said:
They're all pretty much benign until otherwise proven (canola has been shown to be net neutral basically) but some studies show that some have potential health benefits compared to butter, like possibly reducing cardiovascular risk factors. Safflower, rapeseed, sunflower, olive oil all are shown to reduce cardio risks compared to butter. For weight loss there are some quality studies showing that they're either all equivalent to or superior to animal fats; depends on the study, but none of them show they are worse.
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I've seen a few studies that say finding single-source oils is significant. Some companies are blending oils from different countries that are years old and filtering and colouring them. Pretty gross. From what I've seen, California is probably the best single source of olive oil.
 
Leafyblue said:
I've seen a few studies that say finding single-source oils is significant. Some companies are blending oils from different countries that are years old and filtering and colouring them. Pretty gross. From what I've seen, California is probably the best single source of olive oil.
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Yeah the olive oil industry is riddled with fake shit and blending for sure
 
Leafyblue said:
I've seen a few studies that say finding single-source oils is significant. Some companies are blending oils from different countries that are years old and filtering and colouring them. Pretty gross. From what I've seen, California is probably the best single source of olive oil.
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so New Yorker did a long article 10 yrs ago about how much of the cheap olive oil is adulterated...and U of California Irvine did a lab analysis of 25 brands or so. Kirkland Brand (Costco) was very pure. I buy that a lot, and also brands that bother to post a harvest date
 
CH1 said:
so New Yorker did a long article 10 yrs ago about how much of the cheap olive oil is adulterated...and U of California Irvine did a lab analysis of 25 brands or so. Kirkland Brand (Costco) was very pure. I buy that a lot, and also brands that bother to post a harvest date
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Just import it directly from Italy
 
btw, Cleveland Health Clinic (for what it's worth) says seed oils are not as healthy as olive or avocado oils

health.clevelandclinic.org

Seed Oils: Are They Truly Toxic?

The most popular seed oils are sometimes referred to as the “hateful eight,” a reference to some people’s belief that they’re toxic and should be completely removed from your diet. But is the problem with seed oils themselves or is it with the way they’re used?
health.clevelandclinic.org health.clevelandclinic.org
 
CH1 said:
btw, Cleveland Health Clinic (for what it's worth) says seed oils are not as healthy as olive or avocado oils

health.clevelandclinic.org

Seed Oils: Are They Truly Toxic?

The most popular seed oils are sometimes referred to as the “hateful eight,” a reference to some people’s belief that they’re toxic and should be completely removed from your diet. But is the problem with seed oils themselves or is it with the way they’re used?
health.clevelandclinic.org health.clevelandclinic.org
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I was just referring to the one study about cardiovascular event risk reduction where olive oiler scored lower than some others! But as a whole olive oil is king. Avocado is probably up there too.
 
Preston said:
On their own there is zero evidence they do more harm than animal fats. They are often guilty by association because they are ingredients in a bunch of ultra processed trash that you see in stores (since it's the cheapest way to get fats into the formulation), but that's not what is causing people issues. There's a bit of a misinformation campaign going on about them tbh.
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@CH1 From your article: “When you cut seed oils from your diet, what you’re really doing is cutting out many processed foods,” she adds. “I think that’s why we’re hearing about them as being so bad for your health. But it’s less about the seed oils themselves and more about the fact that they’re so often found in ultra-processed foods.”

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Preston said:
I googled Joe Rogan seed oils assuming he'd be in on it. I was right. Many videos came up. I decided to share the one with my favorite title. Best of luck!
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Having never listened to anything on the topic, I’d imagine the Rogan position is that seed oils are a conspiracy by “big grocery” and are specifically engineered in a lab to cause cancer. And that you should instead substitute fat that you rendered yourself from an elk that you personally hunted and killed with a bow. And that this home-rendered fat is a miracle super food that improves your brain thinkin’ by 79%.

And then the RFK Jr position is almost exactly the same, except substitute personally-collected roadkill or beached whale for the bow-hunted elk.
 
Preston said:
@CH1 From your article: “When you cut seed oils from your diet, what you’re really doing is cutting out many processed foods,” she adds. “I think that’s why we’re hearing about them as being so bad for your health. But it’s less about the seed oils themselves and more about the fact that they’re so often found in ultra-processed foods.”

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Oh yeah...never doubted that. Food that come in a box is full of junk.

my only (slight) dilemma occurs when I make mayo (I currently mostly use avocado because I have it around, but wonder if I should just buy a giant tub of cheap sunflower oil)
 
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