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OT: American Politics

Depends which world you live in. As flyguy points out, if you're in a right wing echochamber environment, the "ground" may seem heavily skewed in the other direction. I'm biased so it's hard for me to determine what the ground really says.
while true, I doubt the FlyGuys of the world have seen the repeatedly empty Trump rallies.

one piece of data among many, I'm not gonna jump to conclusions off that.

and I won't pretend to have the full picture either.

but there seems to be a LOT of Dem enthusiasm on the ground.
 
Depends which world you live in. As flyguy points out, if you're in a right wing echochamber environment, the "ground" may seem heavily skewed in the other direction. I'm biased so it's hard for me to determine what the ground really says.
I do live in a redder area, but there are trump flags everywhere. Cars, hanging off fences, there's an eighteen wheeler parked on someone's land on GA 400 with a Trump poster spread across the whole side of it. Car stickers with Trump everywhere. The only Harris sticker I've seen was a funny one that said "me and my cat support Harris" lol.

If Harris wins it'll be a silent majority type thing like how Trump won in 2016.
 
while true, I doubt the FlyGuys of the world have seen the repeatedly empty Trump rallies.

one piece of data among many, I'm not gonna jump to conclusions off that.

and I won't pretend to have the full picture either.

but there seems to be a LOT of Dem enthusiasm on the ground.
As biased as I am, I feel that there is more enthusiasm on trump than ever, beyond the rallies. He has never been so mainstream and has increased in popularity quite a bit amongst young males. That's not data but I don't perceive it to be as rosy as you at the moment.
 
while true, I doubt the FlyGuys of the world have seen the repeatedly empty Trump rallies.

one piece of data among many, I'm not gonna jump to conclusions off that.

and I won't pretend to have the full picture either.

but there seems to be a LOT of Dem enthusiasm on the ground.
Empty? Like the one just 45 min away from me in Georgia last week that had lines waiting hours beforehand?
 
As biased as I am, I feel that there is more enthusiasm on trump than ever, beyond the rallies. He has never been so mainstream and has increased in popularity quite a bit amongst young males. That's not data but I don't perceive it to be as rosy as you at the moment.
Face it, 2020 covid pushed tons of people towards alternate media. You're not getting an accurate view of people's views unless you pay attention to alternate media sources.
 
Maybe not, but I'm guessing she didn't get into law school via a "disadvantaged student" program:


View: https://x.com/LauraPowellEsq/status/1848458187747520896


Oh, I'm sure Donald would have tried if it could have saved him a few bucks. He can always get it back on the other end by burying her at another one of his golf courses in the unlikely event that he outlives her though.

Fwiw, I don't know if that tweet thread is the gotcha you think it is. Was Kamala impoverished growing up? No. But research scientists are hardly known for an affluent lifestyle. For example, the average research scientist salary is apparently 83K in Canada in 2024 (60K USD). Which isn't terrible money, but it's hardly outstanding and she was a single mother raising two children on that. Throw in moving multiple times through out her educational career, and it's not outrageous for Kamala to potentially qualify for that type of program for post grad studies.
 
Oh, I'm sure Donald would have tried if it could have saved him a few bucks. He can always get it back on the other end by burying her at another one of his golf courses in the unlikely event that he outlives her though.

Fwiw, I don't know if that tweet thread is the gotcha you think it is. Was Kamala impoverished growing up? No. But research scientists are hardly known for an affluent lifestyle. For example, the average research scientist salary is apparently 83K in Canada in 2024 (60K USD). Which isn't terrible money, but it's hardly outstanding and she was a single mother raising two children on that. Throw in moving multiple times through out her educational career, and it's not outrageous for Kamala to potentially qualify for that type of program for post grad studies.
I knew high school friends who were quite middle class, but still qualified for financial aid to go to the elite schools like Harvard. Once you factor in exchange and anything else like single mothers, definitely not a stretch to get some aid without being anything close to "poor".
 
Oh, I'm sure Donald would have tried if it could have saved him a few bucks. He can always get it back on the other end by burying her at another one of his golf courses in the unlikely event that he outlives her though.

Fwiw, I don't know if that tweet thread is the gotcha you think it is. Was Kamala impoverished growing up? No. But research scientists are hardly known for an affluent lifestyle. For example, the average research scientist salary is apparently 83K in Canada in 2024 (60K USD). Which isn't terrible money, but it's hardly outstanding and she was a single mother raising two children on that. Throw in moving multiple times through out her educational career, and it's not outrageous for Kamala to potentially qualify for that type of program for post grad studies.
I am still figuring out how Trump, as such a natural athlete, was able to excel at football and baseball while having bone spurs that kept him out of Viet Nam.
 
As biased as I am, I feel that there is more enthusiasm on trump than ever, beyond the rallies. He has never been so mainstream and has increased in popularity quite a bit amongst young males. That's not data but I don't perceive it to be as rosy as you at the moment.
i'll have no problem owning up if i get this wrong but even anecdotally we're seeing countless republicans saying they won't vote for him - even if they won't vote for kamala. we saw that in the primaries, haley voters told us that in the exit polling. he can't afford to lose votes from 2020. i still think we'll see that in the final results.

he might very well be more popular than ever with his base though.
 
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