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OT: American Politics

zeke said:
and like with Habsy, our combined efforts along with @FlyGuy 's daughter talking some sense into him will turn him blue in a few years.
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I've embraced traditionally blue platforms this cycle, even if they're not the focus of dem's any more fwiw. Better regulation of drinking water, food, pharmaceuticals, anti-war, etc.
 
FlyGuy said:
Likewise, the EV and registration numbers look good for R's. In the end, I have a hard time believing abortion will be a big enough issue to sway this election past the economic troubles the country has experienced.
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The economy is going legit gangbusters though. People are making more and spending more than ever.

Right wingers screech all day about how Freedom matters more than anything, but they don't realize that Choice is an extremely real and urgent daily Freedome issue for women. They are literally voting for their Freedom to not be denied urgent healthcare by some government bureacrat. It's as real as freedom gets.
 
FlyGuy said:
I've embraced traditionally blue platforms this cycle, even if they're not the focus of dem's any more fwiw. Better regulation of drinking water, food, pharmaceuticals, anti-war, etc.
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oh i know.


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Wayward DP said:
it's a politics thread and despite living in a different world than most of the rest of us, he is discussing politics.

sure, the volume of bullshit is challenging, no doubt.

and just because he wants engagement does mean there is no value in engaging either.

can you not just ignore him if he's clogging up the thread?
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Agree to disagree on the value of engaging I guess. He sure seems to get more insane as we go.
 
zeke said:
Is nate having a moment of clarity


View: https://x.com/NateSilver538/status/1853497068876165334
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I was actually giving pollster too much credit apparently. I was just suggesting that at worst they understood the data and the models well enough to set the models up to produce the results they wanted. Instead they actually didn't know the data that well and were getting survey results in that they couldn't make work they way they wanted, so they played with the models to reverse engineer the results they wanted to sell.

We've gone from greasy to pure fraud.
 
zeke said:
The economy is going legit gangbusters though. People are making more and spending more than ever.

Right wingers screech all day about how Freedom matters more than anything, but they don't realize that Choice is an extremely real and urgent daily Freedome issue for women. They are literally voting for their Freedom to not be denied urgent healthcare by some government bureacrat. It's as real as freedom gets.
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The spending is credit/debt spending, though. People are making more, but not at the rate at which costs/inflation have gone up. Inflation has realllly hit the poor/lower middle-class badly. It advantages the rich the most.

And I just simply disagree that the urgent, baby-killing healthcare is 1. As commonplace as implied and 2. Commonly rejected. I know you'll provide anecdotal stories now. Regardless, it's a state issue. It needs to be, and mostly has been and will continue to be if it really is an issue, addressed at the state level at the direction of what the local population wishes. It is an emotional issue that the left has supercharged well to distract from the tough economic time we're in/going into.

Mark my words, as soon as whichever person wins, the real economic data is going to start dropping. They've slowly been pulling back GDP estimates to start to prepare people. And that GDP is driven by government spending, just like jobs data is driven by government jobs. It's not a recipe for success. You can't spend your way out of economic slowing.

I have a hard time thinking of a more transparent politically-motivated fed decision than the 50bps cut they did. Just truly, truly irresponsible.
 
FlyGuy said:
Likewise, the EV and registration numbers look good for R's. In the end, I have a hard time believing abortion will be a big enough issue to sway this election past the economic troubles the country has experienced.
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(the economy is fucking fantastic)
 
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