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OT: American Politics

And champions of social regulation want Wall Street with one hand tied behind their backs too, if not both. It's part of the human condition.
 
Moral is, they want to tell you what to do, how to think and what to say.

As a libertarian I say eff that shit.
 
Habsy said:
And champions of social regulation want Wall Street with one hand tied behind their backs too, if not both. It's part of the human condition.
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I'd hardly call Warren's vision for wall street "one hand tied behind their backs". It's more akin to "taking their foot off of the throat of the american economy". They can either take the foot off willingly or have it removed. Their call.
 
Habsy said:
And champions of social regulation want Wall Street with one hand tied behind their backs too, if not both. It's part of the human condition.
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Canada and Australia have more regulated banking systems than the US and Europe and we did much better during the meltdown.

Don’t get sucked into the political rhetoric, the US banking system could stand to be reregulated. Those guys treated the financial system like a casino, reaped insane rewards that were wildly decoupled from economic reality, and then killed credit markets to protect shareholder equity when the real economy (jobs, income) bit back.

It needs a long hard look.
 
zeke's numbers are opt-in garbage.

All of these polls use more or less proper methodology, except the one zeke used and the economist/yougov one (both opt-in garbage).

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zeke said:
Beleafer has a cute habit of trying to attack the source of any news he doesn't like.
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LOL. Hey kettle, how you doing this morning?

Now you bank on a single poll when you've usually gone with the averages and tossed out outliers? Too funny.
 
I was looking at what I think was the first poll done entirely after the impeachment vote.

Dont think there are any others yet.
 
Fair enough.

From all indications that I have seen it is pretty much split down the middle, which is to be expected in this current environment.
 
This is a messaging battle the dems really should win, if they stay on message like the gop always does:

 
zeke said:
Beleafer has a cute habit of trying to attack the source of any news he doesn't like.
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This is just bullshit, but whatever. I've been very consistent in trying to explain how polling works to you.

Well, remember, this is the site he uses for go-to polling numbers:

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OMG, real clear politics is right wing! Thanks for that news. The reason I use it is because: a) it collects virtually all polling on a range of issues, and; b) provides links to all the polls it posts -- so that you can inspect the methodology (something you have chosen to be willfully ignorant about).
 
Even if you chose to be oblivious about the quality of polls, there's 12 polls up there and only 3 of them support your quickly vanishing fever dream. Two of those are complete garbage.

But carry on ...
 
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