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OT: American Politics

My kids school is massive. It's a small college. Every classroom has two ingress/egress. Every building has assigned enter and exits

Campus gates are locked down during school.
 
axlsalinger said:
yeah, there's nothing wrong with a simple suggestion. even if the US implemented strict gun control laws tomorrow (spoiler alert: they won't), everybody already has 3 or 4 Bazookas in the closet. This problem will take decades to resolve.
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That's another thing. They can pass all the laws they want, over 350 million guns in this country alone. Good luck with an immediate impact.

If anything it may trigger more loonies.
 
Habsy said:
Says the guy without kids. You have no opinion.
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Your reply is not a refutation of my argument. An AR-15 will make swiss cheese out of that classroom door and the chair used to barricade it. This "life hack" isn't saving any lives, it's merely delaying the inevitable by a few seconds. Give anyone an uninterrupted hour inside a school with an assault rifle and enough ammo and every living thing inside that building is going to die, barricaded doors or no barricaded doors.

People need to realize why an assault rifle is a weapon of mass destruction. It's potential for inflicting damage is exponentially greater than a hunting rifle or a handgun.

But, but, but....fucking doors and fucking chairs. Right.
 
Habsy said:
That's another thing. They can pass all the laws they want, over 350 million guns in this country alone. Good luck with an immediate impact.

If anything it may trigger more loonies.
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Very true. It's also interesting that to date the gunmen wait until they are of legal age before they purchase the weapons.
Law abiding citizens and all.

Some places are offering purchasing terms. I guess you can go into debt if you will never pay it back.
 
thehabhater said:
Very true. It's also interesting that to date the gunmen wait until they are of legal age before they purchase the weapons.
Law abiding citizens and all.

Some places are offering purchasing terms. I guess you can go into debt if you will never pay it back.
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Unlike student loans, defaulting on a loan for a gun purchase is forgivable and can be dispensed in a bankruptcy filing (probably without having to allow the firearm to be repossessed too)
 
hockeylover said:
Personally, I think the background check/red flag law stuff is a huge deal that would have somewhat of an impact.

It seems like a really obvious pattern that mass shooting suspects have run ins/assaults/threats with, more often than not, women.
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The gun manufacturers (and the NRA who they run) do not want to see any legislation passed which would potentially mean fewer sales. They want guns to be 100% accessible to 100% of the population 100% of the time. Their logic is that if bad people are allowed to own guns then everyone else will have no choice but to cowboy up.

It's the same type of thinking behind allowing 16 year olds to drive. If a politician ever suggested raising the driving age their biggest opponents would be car manufacturers.
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
Your reply is not a refutation of my argument. An AR-15 will make swiss cheese out of that classroom door and the chair used to barricade it. This "life hack" isn't saving any lives, it's merely delaying the inevitable by a few seconds. Give anyone an uninterrupted hour inside a school with an assault rifle and enough ammo and every living thing inside that building is going to die, barricaded doors or no barricaded doors.

People need to realize why an assault rifle is a weapon of mass destruction. It's potential for inflicting damage is exponentially greater than a hunting rifle or a handgun.

But, but, but....fucking doors and fucking chairs. Right.
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the reason you lock your car door is to make it harder to enter - the thief will move on to the next car

with the chair/door thing (and competent cops) the delay in entering a class room could save many lives - and can even stop a knife wielding meth head once guns are banned
 
Habsy said:
Fuck right off with Wehave type strawmen, I posted a vid that may actually save someone that has seen it and it's "BUT GUN CONTROL".

We live in a different world than you so excuse me for wanting kids to be as educated as fucking possible until the dream is realized.

Or your way, why bother eh? Why teach kids survival skills?

A simple fucking video and you people get stupid. Again.
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I didn't watch nor was I aware of the video. I couldn't tell you what is in it. I made no comment on the video. Please relax.

my only comment was more or less in support of WeHave's argument that the only thing that moves the needle (when it comes to dealing with the problem of mass shootings) is gun control. I stand by that position and don't think it is at all offensive in the context.
 
zeke said:
Hands up anyone who even knows anyone that will be impacted by it.
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actually I do! a friend's ex is a gun lover. had many spirited debates on the topic.

he claimed that a .22 calibre handgun is not actually a 'weapon' and could not kill someone. fun debates.
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
Your reply is not a refutation of my argument. An AR-15 will make swiss cheese out of that classroom door and the chair used to barricade it. This "life hack" isn't saving any lives, it's merely delaying the inevitable by a few seconds. Give anyone an uninterrupted hour inside a school with an assault rifle and enough ammo and every living thing inside that building is going to die, barricaded doors or no barricaded doors.

People need to realize why an assault rifle is a weapon of mass destruction. It's potential for inflicting damage is exponentially greater than a hunting rifle or a handgun.

But, but, but....fucking doors and fucking chairs. Right.
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You're arguing with yourself again

Perfect idiot
 
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