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OT: Coronavirus Resources - and other things to not worry about

Preston said:
Granted, I suspect most of the ICU folks are from Delta but this sorta says everything. The vaccines are proving their worth more than ever now that protection from symptomatic disease is basically gone. And since most young folks are getting hit in Omicron, it's the unvaxxed who are at risk of being hospitalized. Once it leaks into the older, highly vaxxed ages I suspect things may change. But this is a beautiful picture of vaccines doing some serious work.

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huh, so the data supports the vaccines being super fucking effective. who knew, eh?

(don't tell our winged buddy about this...)
 
Who on earth would want to work in health care after all of this?

There's likely a great niche business for someone to specialize in helping health care workers transition into different industries...
 
Wayward DP said:
huh, so the data supports the vaccines being super fucking effective. who knew, eh?

(don't tell our winged buddy about this...)
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The vaccines over time will prove to show less effectiveness as most of the population has prior infection and protection against severe disease. I bet you our chart looks a lot better than UK, for example, since a lot of their unvaxxed already caught covid. Ontario is gonna be a nice case study on how well they work on omicron.. But the best will be Australia. They've had like no prior infections but Omicron is killing them right now. Will keep an eye on that data. I'm sure the vax vs unvax ICU/hospitalization rate will be striking.
 
trujaysfan said:
Maybe the focus in the next couple of years should be building out hospital and health care infrastructure.
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This stuff doesn’t follow orderly actuarial tables. We need to find a way to deal with unpredictable surges. Looks like the issues are effective emergency management plans (heh), sufficient numbers of qualified reserve/part-times personnel and domestic production facilities for the vaccines. (Apparently Moderna will build something in Canada?)
 
lecoqsportif said:
This stuff doesn’t follow orderly actuarial tables. We need to find a way to deal with unpredictable surges. Looks like the issues are effective emergency management plans (heh), sufficient numbers of qualified reserve/part-times personnel and domestic production facilities for the vaccines. (Apparently Moderna will build something in Canada?)
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Yep a health care system that is ready for covid is one with emergency surge capacity. I think the answers going forward are going to be rapid, modular, temp construction and med tech based rather than investing in temporary human capacity that requires expensive initial training and ongoing re training that a lot of people are poor at keeping current with.
 
MindzEye said:
Yep a health care system that is ready for covid is one with emergency surge capacity. I think the answers going forward are going to be rapid, modular, temp construction and med tech based rather than investing in temporary human capacity that requires expensive initial training and ongoing re training that a lot of people are poor at keeping current with.
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I got boosted in a hockey rink. I agree with Stinky, we need some serious thinking about personnel.
 
lecoqsportif said:
I got boosted in a hockey rink. I agree with Stinky, we need some serious thinking about personnel.
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Robots and process automation are probably the way. Short of steep increases in salary, retention bonuses, etc, I don't see what else can be done other than developing the tech and processes necessary that allows for one human to do the work of multiple humans.

Frankly, putting so many highly trained humans in harms way on the front lines of a public health crisis, as a matter of process, is kind of a loony strategy.
 
In Denmark between Nov. 22 and Dec. 17, the hospitalization rate was higher for delta cases: 1%, compared with 0.6% for Omicron.

The reason? Omicron infects vaccinated people. Delta takes down the unvaxxed.
 
Preston said:
Between Nov. 22 and Dec. 17, the hospitalization rate was higher for delta cases: 1%, compared with 0.6% for Omicron.

The reason? Omicron infects vaccinated people. Delta takes down the unvaxxed.
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I need a Delta #1 foam finger.

Let's make this a pandemic of the unvaxxed again.
 
Preston said:
In Denmark between Nov. 22 and Dec. 17, the hospitalization rate was higher for delta cases: 1%, compared with 0.6% for Omicron.

The reason? Omicron infects vaccinated people. Delta takes down the unvaxxed.
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is there a way to tease out hospitalization rates based on variant AND vax status.

i.e.
a) hospitalized, vaccinated, omicron; vs.
b) hospitalized, unvaxxed, omicron; vs.
c) hospitalized, vaccinated, any other variants; vs.
d) hospitalized, unvaxxed, any other variants

in the above breakdown the key remaining variable would likely be previous infections?
 
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