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OT: Coronavirus Resources - and other things to not worry about

I'm amazed by the number of people afraid of the booster. For the vast majority the side effects are relatively mild. Seems like a small price to pay.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
I love to buy low, that's for sure. But I resent your judeo-cheapeo remark nonetheless.

The boosters right now are just the original shot administered for a third time, right?

To my knowledge, I never caught covid, and I'm definitely not one of those who wants to build immunity through contraction. But fuck, I'm not in the mood for another shot and getting sick the next day, and am concerned about pushing the older folks in the family to get it. Damn thing.
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Yeah. Up until omicron, they were enough to stifle infections. Now they help give you some 2-3 month protection on getting infected but restoring as much protection vs severe disease as possible is the main appeal for me, even if that bit hasn't waned all that much. The omicron specific boosters will restore both of those things at a higher level but not getting boosted now means you're living naked for the next 3-5 months. 2 doses should protect you from the worst outcomes but if you can get a few ml of a safe product that allows you to maximize protection... I mean what do you lose? A day of productivity?

Omicron was a very far escape from delta and maybe it happens again and again, but eventually we'll either be infected or vaccinated by so many variants that these "immune escape" variants won't be as big of a problem for us since our portfolios of infection/vaccination will be so broad and wide. A single boost of any variant-based vaccine once a year should restore strong protection. And the real ticket is a vaccine that generates a broader response; those are in development.

Anyway they're very safe products. Far safer than shit like antibiotics or even ibuprofen, acetaminophen, etc. My only issue is that I hope we find another platform longer term because the myocarditis risks, while tiny, add up if we're getting boosted multiple times a year.
 
I'm not worried about losing a day. I'm concerned about potentially having too much vaccine pumped into my bloodstream. More concerned about the older folks getting too much, frankly.

How's it more safe than ibuprofen?
 
LeafOfFaith said:
I'm not worried about losing a day. I'm concerned about potentially having too much vaccine pumped into my bloodstream. More concerned about the older folks getting too much, frankly.

How's it more safe than ibuprofen?
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You know it doesn't just float around in your bloodstream indefinitely right?
 
LeafOfFaith said:
I'm not worried about losing a day. I'm concerned about potentially having too much vaccine pumped into my bloodstream. More concerned about the older folks getting too much, frankly.

How's it more safe than ibuprofen?
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How's it more dangerous? You take it and it's out of your system in 1-2 months. The low myocarditis risks (only really a risk for younger adults) are the only "unsafe" thing about them. If you're regularly taking ibuprofen that would do way more long-term damage. Not even close. And I'm not saying ibuprofen is particularly dangerous either. It's just more dangerous than something that has the best safety profile in all of medicine.
 
so many people out there seem to struggle with the idea that a smaller piece of a bigger pie could actually be bigger than a bigger piece of a smaller pie.
 
People struggle with numbers. And the "mild" vs "milder" bit throws people for a loop too. "If it's milder than delta that must make it mild."
 
Preston said:
People struggle with numbers. And the "mild" vs "milder" bit throws people for a loop too. "If it's milder than delta that must make it mild."
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It doesn't help that since everyone is double and triple vaxx now, a large number of people who have it have it very mild too. But it's the standard case where even if it's half as bad individually, if it infects 4x the number of people, some people are going to get it bad.
 
UWHabs said:
It doesn't help that since everyone is double and triple vaxx now, a large number of people who have it have it very mild too. But it's the standard case where even if it's half as bad individually, if it infects 4x the number of people, some people are going to get it bad.
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Yup. Same deal as delta tho with most young vaxxed folks getting it mild. But age-adjusted hospitalization rates were and are still 3-5x higher than the flu. That's not mild to me. The flu sucks.
 
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Preston said:
How's it more dangerous? You take it and it's out of your system in 1-2 months. The low myocarditis risks (only really a risk for younger adults) are the only "unsafe" thing about them. If you're regularly taking ibuprofen that would do way more long-term damage. Not even close. And I'm not saying ibuprofen is particularly dangerous either. It's just more dangerous than something that has the best safety profile in all of medicine.
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All nsaids are far more damaging than is commonly believed.
 
Meanwhile with a vaccine all you're left with is an immune response after 1-2 months. Safest product in medicine. Easily the best ROI.
 


Not sure why they based their new guidance on omicron’s behaviour and said that when it’s not even the dominant variant yet.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
I'm not worried about losing a day. I'm concerned about potentially having too much vaccine pumped into my bloodstream. More concerned about the older folks getting too much, frankly.

How's it more safe than ibuprofen?
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This is the funny thing - the vaccine isn't a drug. Drugs, even the mildest ones, have stronger longterm side effects than the vaccine.
 
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