OT: Coronavirus Resources - and other things to not worry about
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oscarheyman
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Vancouver protest: Hundreds converge on downtown to oppose health mandates
Vancouver police said five people had been arrested during the protest, and that they received numerous reports on vandalism and mischief.
theprovince.com
"Hundreds"......you get as many angry people in Vancouver from a cancelled Guns & Roses concert:
How Axl Rose's 2002 No-Show Sparked a Guns N’ Roses Fan Riot
A canceled Guns N' Roses concert led to a riot on Nov. 7, 2002 in Vancouver.
ultimateclassicrock.com
...course, if it involves hockey.
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hockeylover
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i don't care at all anymore.
you can talk until you're blue in the face about how we should "engage" etc but that's only with people arguing in good faith.
for the rest. load up on ivermectin then, go for it!! just stfu.
you can talk until you're blue in the face about how we should "engage" etc but that's only with people arguing in good faith.
for the rest. load up on ivermectin then, go for it!! just stfu.
Preston
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@blkngldbabe @Artnes how are y'all and the family since your infections? Hope you're all feeling alright by now.
blkngldbabe
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Significantly better for sure. I’d be lying if I said there werent lingering symptoms though. The cobwebs haven’t lifted and I’m experiencing some weird things while teaching/working out at a high level. Recovery takes much longer for heart rate to drop and even though my heart rate stays higher for longer, I’m not sweating nearly as much as previously. It’s really disconcerting.
blkngldbabe
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Thanks for asking BTW.
Preston
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None of that is particularly abnormal post-infection (fuck this virus). Recovery is often long and not like a cold or the flu. It'll get better with time. Take care of yourself and don't push yourself too hard.
hockeylover
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Really similar for me. Took me a few months to feel more normal.
I'm glad about the significantly better part though!
Preston
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My brother got Delta'd and the booster helped with some of his cognitive and chronic fatigue issues. Granted, his issues were very severe from the get-go after a mild illness (by day ~10 a second wave of symptoms hit him and they never went away). He says he's about 50% back to normal since getting boosted. He was well below that before.
Tldr: we really need to understand what causes this shit because I don't think his experience is very uncommon (long covid estimates are as high as 30% with severe ones like his anywhere from 2-5% which is an astronomic number). And if we're gonna "live" with this thing then this is probably gonna be the #1 thing we need to resolve if we're all gonna rack up double digit infections in our lifetime.
Tldr: we really need to understand what causes this shit because I don't think his experience is very uncommon (long covid estimates are as high as 30% with severe ones like his anywhere from 2-5% which is an astronomic number). And if we're gonna "live" with this thing then this is probably gonna be the #1 thing we need to resolve if we're all gonna rack up double digit infections in our lifetime.
lecoqsportif
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But at least one can be impeccably dewormed.
axlsalinger
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Lots of reports of this happening ever since the vaccine first came out.
It "seems like" maybe there are a bunch of cells still infected with covid even after the normal recovery period that linger for months, which seems a bit odd if the natural antibodies & T cells etc. are able to get rid of most of the virus in the first 1-2 weeks. We know antibodies shouldn't start to wane until 4-6 months later. But in theory, the booster would then provide fresh antibodies or T cell instructions to kill much of the virus that remains.
Complex diseases are rarely that simple, though. Are virologists pretty sure something like this is going on, do they have alternate
Preston
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From what I've seen we largely have no idea but we're getting closer potentially. One of the big studies is testing 5 hypotheseseseses. And yeah one is lingering virus.
The study has tested five different hypotheses on why long COVID exists, according to Iwasaki. Among them is the “viral reservoir” hypothesis, in which infectious particles or remnants of the virus persist in the bodies of people afflicted with long COVID. The second is that autoimmune diseases are triggered by COVID-19. The third centers around microbiomes and the balance of good and bad bacteria in the body. The fourth stems from unrepaired tissue damage, and the fifth focuses on the reactivation of previous viruses, like herpes. While there are five distinct hypotheses, Iwasaki explained that the underlying reasons for long COVID might be a combination of these.
axlsalinger
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Aberdeen
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Do these comment on vax status prior to infection?
Preston
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These were pre-vax infections.
For long covid prevalence in general there's been all sorts of studies and they all draw different conclusions. One study had vaccination cutting it down by 40-50%, one showed no effect at all, and a couple others had reductions of around 33%. Problem is long covid could be a million different things so it's to know for sure which exact symptoms are reduced..
Preston
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For Delta and variants before Delta, UK data showed that long COVID symptoms of any severity were reported by 9.5% of double vaxxed folks, 14.6% for unvaxxed. The corresponding estimates for long COVID symptoms severe enough to result in limitation to day-to-day activities were 5.5% and 8.7% respectively.
Scary high numbers quite frankly.
Scary high numbers quite frankly.