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OT: Coronavirus Resources - and other things to not worry about

lecoqsportif said:
Experts: what is the skinny re: long COVID?

Is there a difference between variants? Does vax status make a difference re: severity?

It does get much air time, which is understandable. But seems to be a real sonofabitch.
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Too early to know for omicorn since it hasn't been around long enough to even have long-term symptoms.

There was one study that showed that folks vaccinated cut the risks in half, roughly. I think one or two others had it closer to 40% less common if vaxxed. Which makes sense; this is a vastly different virus for people unvaxxed or never infected than for those who had exposure. Hospitalization rates, fatality rates, etc have already decreased dramatically since 2020 so theoretically long covid should become less common too.

Most studies have long covid being anywhere from 10 to 30% of all cases. But that can be anything from a lingering cought, slight fatigue or the more severe stuff that HL mentioned.
 
Study estimating intrinsic severity reduction vs Delta (as opposed to reduction due to immunity through vax and prior infection):

www.medrxiv.org

Outcomes of laboratory-confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection in the Omicron-driven fourth wave compared with previous waves in the Western Cape Province, South Africa

Objectives We aimed to compare COVID-19 outcomes in the Omicron-driven fourth wave with prior waves in the Western Cape, the contribution of undiagnosed prior infection to differences in outcomes in a context of high seroprevalence due to prior infection, and whether protection against severe...
www.medrxiv.org www.medrxiv.org

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If true this makes it the second most severe variant we have seen yet. Immunity is a powerful thing. Just a preprint and just one study, but if we're seeing a 50-70% reduction in multiple countries, this makes sense with more vaxxed than ever infected. A good portion of that 50-70% is a result of that immunity. I'd be worried if it wasn't!

TLDR: mildER, not mild.
 
I am now 24 hours post-booster. I had a pretty miserable night, mostly cause arm pain prevented me from sleeping comfortably. Yesterday had some minor chills and flu symptoms in the afternoon. Things seem to be clearing up this morning though. Arm is still sore but brain is mostly fine.

Ms. Wayward reported ongoing chills pretty recently and was still in bed when I left for work this morning so this has hit her harder. Same thing happened with dose two.

But I think my conclusion has to be that the second dose side effects were worse for me at least.
 
That sucks.

I've had literally zero side effects since getting a shot at 5:30 yesterday. Slept like a baby.
 
TLDR: I know everyone wants to abandon vaccines since they believe covid will now be over... But there is no better way to protect ourselves for the foreseeable future. We will need to keep boosting regularly until another better option comes along. And this is even with a vaccine with a shitty match on Omicron... Protection will fade quickly tho. Better prepare for the next round!
 
Preston said:
TLDR: I know everyone wants to abandon vaccines since they believe covid will now be over... But there is no better way to protect ourselves for the foreseeable future. We will need to keep boosting regularly until another better option comes along. And this is even with a vaccine with a shitty match on Omicron... Protection will fade quickly tho. Better prepare for the next round!
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I am looking at it as basically.... I have as good protection as I am going to get right now. It will wane over the coming months but as we transition from winter-spring-summer hopefully the prevalance/risk also decreases. Basically I am going to try and inch back towards a more normal life now that I am as protected as I can be, get through the summer, and reassess.

But I have learned a lesson or five about trying to make future plans during the pandemic...
 
Wayward DP said:
I am looking at it as basically.... I have as good protection as I am going to get right now. It will wane over the coming months but as we transition from winter-spring-summer hopefully the prevalance/risk also decreases. Basically I am going to try and inch back towards a more normal life now that I am as protected as I can be, get through the summer, and reassess.

But I have learned a lesson or five about trying to make future plans during the pandemic...
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We'll be living in a world where a giant proportion of folks have 2 or 3 doses + omicron infection on their books. That's way more effective than just 3 doses. TLDR: population immunity will be strong for the next few months so risks should theoretically be lower from February till the summer. My plan was always to hang back until Feb and after that... We did all we could by limiting risks when transmission was out of control and we were only on 2 doses. Less virus should be present as omicron will struggle to find new hosts at some point.

But yeah... A new variant could always rain on that parade. I think for now it's reasonable to imagine a wonderful summer. Anything after that, who knows. I imagine that's about when we'd get boosted again anyway.
 
hockeylover said:
Not much risk of me doing whatever the hell I want now if I'm alpha + omicron + pfizered x 3, correct?
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If you were actually omicroned, absolutely very low risk. I haven't seen any omicron reinfections documented yet. I'm sure they exist but I don't think any have been confirmed so it's undoubtedly extremely rare. Will be interesting to see how soon they crop up. I bet you we find out first through professional sports teams.
 
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