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OT: MLB Thread

Krustchev said:
Read today that the Expos' move to DC is the most profitable sports franchise relocation ever.
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More profitable than the Dodgers going to LA or the Giants going to SF? I very much doubt it. The Thrashers moving from Atlanta to Winnipeg was a money-maker, as was the Flames moving from Atlanta to Calgary.

Bud Selig made a fortune when he swindled the Pilots out of Seattle and moved them to Milwaukee to become the Brewers.

Moving the Lakers from Minnesota to LA was probably a good move too.

All of these moves seem bigger somehow than the Expos going to DC.
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
More profitable than the Dodgers going to LA or the Giants going to SF? I very much doubt it. The Thrashers moving from Atlanta to Winnipeg was a money-maker, as was the Flames moving from Atlanta to Calgary.

Bud Selig made a fortune when he swindled the Pilots out of Seattle and moved them to Milwaukee to become the Brewers.

Moving the Lakers from Minnesota to LA was probably a good move too.

All of these moves seem bigger somehow than the Expos going to DC.
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Yes, in the first decade since the move. The Dodgers and Giants moved in 1956, as you know.
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
Well if they want their stats to mean anything they need to compare to other franchises from other years and adjust for inflation. Look at what the Dodgers made between 1959-69 and translate it into 2016 dollar values.
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Its not just simple inflation. The business of sports has changed.

Tv rights and radio rights and ticket prices and concession prices have all grown at rates that far outstrip inflation. Corporate boxes and personal seat licenses? Not even a dream in the 50s. People wearing jerseys and other merch for the team not near what it is today. Sports is such bigger business now than it was then.
 
True enough but the business of sports hasn't only changed since the late 50's. It's also changed greatly since the mid-1990's, the last time the Expos were a good team. The tendency is for people to look at what the Nats are bringing in today and compare it to the last years of the Expos which is disingenuous. There was a time when the Expos were consistently the MLB attendance leaders and there was also a time when the only remarkable thing about DC was that it had managed to lose two MLB franchises in the span of a decade. They're doing well now. We'll see if it lasts but I'll never buy that DC is a better baseball market than Montreal. If the Nats become perennial cellar dwellers like the old Washington Senators were those revenues will dry up just like they did in Montreal. There are very few cities in the major leagues that can draw big crowds even if they lose. Montreal and Washington aren't among that small and select group. They need to win to sell tickets.
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
True enough but the business of sports hasn't only changed since the late 50's. It's also changed greatly since the mid-1990's, the last time the Expos were a good team. The tendency is for people to look at what the Nats are bringing in today and compare it to the last years of the Expos which is disingenuous. There was a time when the Expos were consistently the MLB attendance leaders and there was also a time when the only remarkable thing about DC was that it had managed to lose two MLB franchises in the span of a decade. They're doing well now. We'll see if it lasts but I'll never buy that DC is a better baseball market than Montreal. If the Nats become perennial cellar dwellers like the old Washington Senators were those revenues will dry up just like they did in Montreal. There are very few cities in the major leagues that can draw big crowds even if they lose. Montreal and Washington aren't among that small and select group. They need to win to sell tickets.
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It absolutely is. It's a very affluent area, and there's also a huge African American upper middle class there.
 
African Americans don't play or watch baseball that much anymore. They gravitate to football and basketball. Latin American players have usurped African Americans in MLB
 
I freaking LOVE watching Bautista get clocked right in the mouth. I could watch that punch on a continuous loop just like the Kovalev hit on Tucker.
 
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