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Can someone explain how roid users Bagwell and Ivan Rodriguez get in the hall of fame, but Bonds and Clemens cant.
 
Can someone explain how roid users Bagwell and Ivan Rodriguez get in the hall of fame, but Bonds and Clemens cant.

Well, Raines did coke according to his testimony during and investigation in the mid-80s.

Is it really so different?

No matter, I'm glad he's being inducted.
 
Well, Raines did coke according to his testimony during and investigation in the mid-80s.

Is it really so different?

No matter, I'm glad he's being inducted.

Yes it's different.

Raines didn't snort coke to become a better ballplayer. He used it recreationally like many pro athletes with disposable cash did in those days. It wasn't part of his training regimen like PED's were for guys like Bonds and Sosa. Cocaine doesn't enhance performance. If anything over time it hampers it. He'd have racked up better numbers if he had been clean.

The opposite is true of many PED users, especially guys like Sosa who was a mediocre hitter without steroid help.
 
Well, Raines did coke according to his testimony during and investigation in the mid-80s.

Is it really so different?

No matter, I'm glad he's being inducted.

It's different, yes I agree with others who take that view.

However, I just see that Bonds and Clemens were better than Pudge and Bagwell and all 4 were using roids. Not sure what the criteria even is to keep them out.
 
It's different, yes I agree with others who take that view.

However, I just see that Bonds and Clemens were better than Pudge and Bagwell and all 4 were using roids. Not sure what the criteria even is to keep them out.

Don't get officially caught, and when you do, dont lie about it.
 
Don't get officially caught, and when you do, dont lie about it.
Officially? What's officially?

Bonds never officially failed a drug test. (His former agent ratted on him). No real difference from Canseco naming names with Pudge in his book.
 
People are not gonna convince me that Jeff ''Big Poppa Pump'' Bagwell didn't juice....

He got really buff, really fast....same as Bonds

Bonds should be in HOF...he won MVP's and batting titles even before he got big from ''possibly'' juicing
 
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