OT: Movies/TV Shows

[Habsy]

Might be a better story but you obviously do not comprehend the full meaning of “origin story”

If you prefer the Nicholson Joker of falling in a vat I get it. You're a purist.

To some, like me, that's far too juvenile and easy. Watching the slow descent into madness was far far more riveting to me.

In this age of multi-universe, go with the flow on a different origin story.

 

[LeafOfFaith]

Did any of it really happen or was it all in his head?

Pretty sure he smashed his head against the glass in the psyche hospital.

Is he the inspiration for the real joker?

Is he THE joker?

Is he Bruce Wayne’s brother?

LOVED how open ended that movie was and how you can interpret it so many ways. So good. Brilliant storytelling.

Oh lord, I forgot about about that part. I fucking cringed when that happened.

 

[LeafOfFaith]

I mean, they’re doing the skrull invasion story in the next wave of marvel movies. They’re done lifting the good comic book stories (and usually doing them worse), now they’re on to the bad stories. Like they honestly can’t write an original story. It’s embarrassing.

 

[Habsy]

D'accord

 

[CH1]

If you prefer the Nicholson Joker of falling in a vat I get it. You're a purist.

To some, like me, that's far too juvenile and easy. Watching the slow decent into madness was far far more riveting to me.

In this age of multi-universe, go with the flow on a different origin story.

I never stated my preference — just that there can only be one origin story, on account of there being a guy who actually invented the character half a century ago

 

[Habsy]

I never stated my preference — just that there can only be one origin story, on account of there being a guy who actually invented the character half a century ago

How granular.

We know what you mean dude. Just because someone changes an origin story doesn't mean it's not the real joker if the character interactions remain similar.

 

[zeke]

Might be a better story but you obviously do not comprehend the full meaning of “origin story”

Not enough vats of acid?

 

[LeafOfFaith]

I never stated my preference — just that there can only be one origin story, on account of there being a guy who actually invented the character half a century ago

Exactly. This is the fucking character. Write a new story for him but don’t change the past. Hey, what if Bruce’s parents were never killed but he saw his girlfriend killed by some burglar? That’s not Bruce Wayne anymore. Leave shit alone, dammit.

 

[Habsy]

So the guy that complains things are rehashed to death is complaining that a different angle on a prequel is faux pas?

Writing a new story over the origin story has been beaten to death.

Also, there are those that want to see something better and this, to me, is way better.

 

[LeafOfFaith]

So the guy that complains things are rehashed to death is complaining that a different angle on a prequel is faux pas?

Writing a new story over the origin story has been beaten to death.

Also, there are those that want to see something better and this, to me, is way better.

You realize there’s a difference between changing an existing story (bad), lifting from age old source material (boring), and telling a new original story (good!)?

I’m not asking for a different origin story for the Joker. They can write a new original non-origin story for him.

 

[Habsy]

I'm asking for a new origin story. They wrote one.

My money spends too

 

[LeafOfFaith]

I'm asking for a new origin story. They wrote one.

My money spends too

Yup, and because 95% of box office is coming from people who don’t care about these things, they don’t care either.

 

[Habsy]

So why is this an issue again?

 

[zeke]

A. The vat of acid was never the important part of any joker origin story

B. This joker can still fall into a vat of acid

 

[Preston]

As someone who doesn't take this shit as seriously as lof (or analyze it as much), I enjoyed the Joker film quite a bit. And I fucking hate superhero shit much like JB. I just don't tell people 5000 times a day about how much I hate it.

 

[zeke]

Beauty of it there was no superhero anything in it.

 

[Preston]

Yeah it was great. You don't have to pretend it's some fantastical world or anything. It was just a good ol' fashioned classic solid film. Really well done.

 

[CH1]

Not enough vats of acid?

shroooooms if you want true enlightenment

 

[LeafOfFaith]

So why is this an issue again?

Because lack of originality is lame.

 

[Habsy]

Because lack of originality is lame.

The root word of originality is original. The root word of original is origin.

They gave us an origin for the Joker.

This movie was completely original.

Really not following you