I have a few tolkien nerd gripes, and a few gripes with pacing and such but overall good. Just good though mind you. Which for a billion dollars and with legendary source material is faint praise.
Galadriel's character is absurd. the irony is she was by far more powerful in the book than this sword-swinging ice-climbing chick who can wear full plate armour(lol). Very telling that they needed to make her "strong" in this particular way.
wait what? Galadriel was a warrior in the books too iirc. I'm pretty sure all the pre-LOTR tales had her leading and fighting battles.
as far as her magical powers, i'm guessing we're just seeing the beginning of her (and gandalf's) development into that kind of power. this is only the First Age I think.
wait what? Galadriel was a warrior in the books too iirc. I'm pretty sure all the pre-LOTR tales had her leading and fighting battles.
as far as her magical powers, i'm guessing we're just seeing the beginning of her (and gandalf's) development into that kind of power. this is only the First Age I think.
It was hilarious, when we were watching the Valinor part my bro said to me "I bet she dives off and swims back to Middle earth"
Anyway, I'm still gonna watch it of course. I love the source material too much not to.
you do not recall correctly.
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Galadriel
"This is Nenya, the Ring of Adamant, and I am its keeper." —Galadriel to Frodo Baggins Galadriel was the "Lady" of the woods of Lothlórien, which she ruled with Celeborn, her husband. One of the greatest Elves in Middle-earth, she surpassed nearly all others in beauty, knowledge, and power. She...lotr.fandom.com
and of course she doesn't have a ROP yet in the first two episodes. obviously. they haven't been crafted yet.
Yep, easily my biggest Tolkien nerd gripe is how bad they've gutted Galadriel and turned her into angry Aragorn.
*nerd gripes alert, turn back now*
- She's roughly 2000 years old at the time of this story, and was considered one of the wisest of the Noldor before Feanor dies 1200 years before ffs (this is an assumption I'll use for now, that this is all happening just before Annatar/Sauron shows up). We just see an angry chick on a vendetta against a baddie that casuals recognize the name of.
- The brother she's angry about dying didn't actually die in that battle they reference in those opening scenes (Finrod dies a much more heroic and overall important death, 10 years after Dagor Bragollach.....and his death was almost 1400 years prior to the events we're seeing now...she did however have 2 other brothers die in that battle, but fuck them, right?). They try to make it seem like it's been a few hundred years since Sauron went missing, when it's been closer to 1200
- You have to beat and stretch the lore within an inch of it's life to extrapolate her ever even picking up a sword from the words written about her. They somehow managed to nerf her in the process, as you mentioned, to make her look "strong".
- They've also managed to completely ignore the existence of her husband (because of course), who she married about ~1200 years prior to these events and 900 since she had her child (Elrond's future wife...)
- Gil-Galad leaves her out of his councils, talking with Elrond like she's simple....when she was the one who influenced his naming as high king, and is generally considered the wisest of all living elves at this point in time.
Yeah, they basically take all the greatness out of the book character to turn her into a sword swinging hero who is angry because all of the men won't listen to her. I kind of fucking hate that they've taken a very, very strong female character and weakened her to turn her into a modern social axe grinding tool.
but did you actually read it though? she might be able to play point guard but her power comes from her magical ability.er, from your link:
"Galadriel was originally named Artanis ("noble woman") which was her Father-name and Nerwen ("man-maiden"), which was her Mother-name (referring to her height and strength)"
"She was also the tallest of elf-women, standing at around 6 feet 4 inches, or 193 centimeters."
"and she grew to be tall beyond the measure even of the women of the Noldor; she was strong of body, mind, and will "
"in The Silmarillion, Galadriel was an eager participant and leader in the rebellion of the Ñoldor and their flight from Valinor due to her desire to one day rule over lands in Middle-earth herself."
She had no role in the major wars of the First Age, believing that defeating Morgoth was beyond the power of the Eldar; when Morgoth was defeated by the coming of the Valar out of the West she, having played no part in the earlier Kinslaying, was offered safe return to Valinor. However, she chose not to leave Middle-earth, and was the only leader of the Ñoldor exiles to remain after the First Age.
sure timelines might be jumbled and many lesser characters disappeared (like with every single show and movie based on a book) though of course all those scraps of Tolkein's writings don't actually coalesce into a coherent timeline, let alone a good storyline, anyways.
but I don't see how anyone reads LOTR and comes off with the impression that Galadriel isn't an immensely powerful (and scary) character both physically and magically, and that as a young woman her physical powers would be more prevalent than her magical ones.
ok so you made me nerd dive.
Tolkien himself: "Galadriel, like all the other names of elvish persons in The Lord of the Rings, is an invention of my own. It is in Sindarin form (see Appendices E and F) and means 'Maiden crowned with gleaming hair'. It is a secondary name given to her in her youth in the far past because she had long hair which glistened like gold but was also shot with silver. She was then of Amazon disposition and bound up her hair as a crown when taking part in athletic feats."
Unfinished Tales: ""So it came to pass that when the light of Valinor failed, for ever as the Noldor thought, she joined the rebellion against the Valar who commanded them to stay; and once she had set foot upon that road of exile she would not relent, but rejected the last message of the Valar, and came under the Doom of Mandos. Even after the merciless assault upon the Teleri and the rape of their ships, though she fought fiercely against Fëanor in defence of her mother's kin, she did not turn back. Her pride was unwilling to return, a defeated suppliant for pardon; but now she burned with desire to follow Fëanor with her anger to whatever lands he might come, and to thwart him in all ways that she could.""
Weird that the nerds would be upset that literally the most powerful being on middle-earth could actually handle herself physically without magic, too.
Of all the dramatic liberties taken by book based shows you guys are furiously upset at the fact the most powerful elf chick of all time was actually able to use a sword and swim and climb.
Pure jokes.