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LeafOfFaith
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Ha, that’s hilarious.
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
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What did you think of Mann's 1986 film Manhunter, which predated Silence of the Lambs by about 5 years and is actually the first film in which the Hannibal Lecter character appears? It's certainly a different vibe than the 2002 remake Red Dragon, although the latter is more faithful to the novel (from what I remember. I read it in 1985)
MyNameIsJonas
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the majority of movies ending in II suck
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There are some "foundational" westerns that one needs to see. High Noon and Shane are 2 of these. Some others I'd recommend if you've not yet seen them are...
The Searchers
The Man Who Shot Liberty Vanlance
Once Upon a Time in the West
Stagecoach
The Magnificent Seven
The Good The Bad and the Ugly
The Ox-Bow Incident
Treasure of Sierra Madre
Rio Bravo
The Wild Bunch
Montana
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I enjoyed it, but also concede it’s an unfair to even critique it after the fact, once you’ve seen Lambs, and it’s 20 odd years after it’s release (which is around when I’d have learned of it/seen it).
If you happened to catch it in theatres, or on VHS prior to Lambs…I think it’d have been a hell of an experience.
Watching it after the fact, is a bit like watching season one of the US Office, and knowing how vastly superior the UK one was. (When they were just making remakes of the UK episodes).
…even tho it’s only 110 mins, I recall it dragging at times. But it has some great shots, is good overall, but like with other Mann films as zeke mentioned, you kinda walk away feeling it didn’t live up to its potential. It’s a 6.5-7/10….that could have been a 8.5-9.
Id have loved to see a 86’ Scott Glenn playing Will Graham (who ended up playing Crawford in Lambs)…and/or De Palma’s take on that same script.
Montana
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Seen the majority of these, but Liberty Valance is another I haven’t gotten to yet….and the Ox-Bow Incident is one I’ve already got on the list of classic western novels I want to get through, so will have to do that before I can watch it.
for whatever reason never considered Sierra Madre as a western, but I need to get to that too.
JackBurton
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Silverado is a fun western
oscarheyman
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For some reason, another Mann film "The Keep" with Scott Glenn in it come to my mind.. Movie is a bit of a mess (no doubt in good part due to the movie studio hacking the film from its 3 hour length to under 100 minutes).
Montana
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This was my first western I watched with my pops….still love it today, and watch it every couple years.
It’s obviously a pretty glossy tent-poll type movie, but the Kasdan script is great, and casting & performances are pitch perfect. It’s a great time.
Fun seeing a spunky Costner onscreen in his first big film, he’s electric anytime he’s on screen, and I’m not sure I ever saw him play a character again, the way he played Jake.
Seeing Michael Beihn as Johnny Ringo years later in Tombstone, it always struck me as a takeoff of Jeff Fahey’s ‘Tyree’ in Silverado.
zeke
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Sierra Madre isn't a western really.
And Fistful of Dollars and A Few Dollars more are alsmot as good as Good bad and ugly.
Top 5 (subject to change one minute from now and every minute after that)
1. Unforgiven
2. The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly
3. High Noon
4. Once Upon a Time in the West
5. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
And Fistful of Dollars and A Few Dollars more are alsmot as good as Good bad and ugly.
Top 5 (subject to change one minute from now and every minute after that)
1. Unforgiven
2. The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly
3. High Noon
4. Once Upon a Time in the West
5. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
Montana
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Crazy, never even knew this film existed, let alone that Mann had Glenn in the lead role….that’s wild.
Especially weird for me, cause in my mind this is exactly the age/look I was picturing Glenn in my mind, but kinda assumed the ages didn’t line up since he looked so much older by the time Lambs came out.
I think this version of Glenn would have crushed it as Will Graham in Manhunter tho, damn.
oscarheyman
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The Beguiled (1971) is "sort" of a Western. Haven't seen the remake yet. Eastwood actually has to act in this one (imho). 
zeke
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I have very mixed feelings about him. Absolute legend who almost created the genre himself, including the classic epic western cinematography, but also responsible for a lot of naive black/white good/evil hero-mythmaking stuff that kind of killed my like for the genre at one point.
But Stagecoach is absolutely essential no doubt. I also love Grapes of Wrath which isn't a western but it's great.
JackBurton
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That's one of Costner's best roles. And it really got him a chance at being a lead. He's terrific.
Montana
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My top 5 Westerns would be:
1. The Assassination of Jesse James by the coward Robert Ford. (One of my top 10 favourite movies, period)
2. The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.
3. Lonesome Dove (ultimately for the novel, but the mini-series is just one long movie, and for a TV adaptation was elite af.)
4. Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid (this & The Sting are about as fun as movies can get. Prob the #1 buddy movie of all time too.
5. Silverado/Unforgiven/Rio Bravo
1. The Assassination of Jesse James by the coward Robert Ford. (One of my top 10 favourite movies, period)
2. The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.
3. Lonesome Dove (ultimately for the novel, but the mini-series is just one long movie, and for a TV adaptation was elite af.)
4. Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid (this & The Sting are about as fun as movies can get. Prob the #1 buddy movie of all time too.
5. Silverado/Unforgiven/Rio Bravo
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axlsalinger
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Great post, just have to decide whether to like or love this --
Does this board have a block feature?