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OT: Politics & News... Have at it.

I sense the country is waking up with a little extra jump this morning

Sure, i figure the next 18-24 months will be great... lower taxes, more services, more payments to families... its gonna be sunshine and rainbows.

Once the interest payments in our budgets start ballooning due to $10 billion per year being added to the national debt... its gonna 10 plus years of pain (no matter who is in power) as the move to cut the deficit and then start paying down some of that debt.
 
Lotus, I understand the numbers used to define the middle class but if your're making $60K a year with a family of four I would think you're struggling to keep your head above water. How do you own a house, pay for sports and activities and still live a decent life?
You play house or soccer, rent movies and go camping
 
Sure, i figure the next 18-24 months will be great... lower taxes, more services, more payments to families... its gonna be sunshine and rainbows.

Once the interest payments in our budgets start ballooning due to $10 billion per year being added to the national debt... its gonna 10 plus years of pain (no matter who is in power) as the move to cut the deficit and then start paying down some of that debt.
30 billion debt in a 2 trillion economy is nothing
 
Justin Trudeau
A pleasure to thank Montrealers for their support today. I'll be proud to represent Papineau as Prime Minister.

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30 billion debt in a 2 trillion economy is nothing

30 billion in ADDITIONAL debt... not 30 billion debt.

Our federal debt is over 600 billion right now.
Our govt debt (federal + provinces) is 1.2 trillion right now or close to $40,000 per person in this country.

"In 2013/14, interest payments on the federal debt totalled $29.3 billion, which roughly equals the $29.9 billion collected in GST revenue for the same period

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/sean-speer/government-interest-payments_b_5698294.html

Increasing the debt by 10 billion a year, is going to increase those interest payments, meaning there will be less money to spend in future budgets.
 
30 billion in ADDITIONAL debt... not 30 billion debt.

Our federal debt is over 600 billion right now.
Our govt debt (federal + provinces) is 1.2 trillion right now or close to $40,000 per person in this country.

"In 2013/14, interest payments on the federal debt totalled $29.3 billion, which roughly equals the $29.9 billion collected in GST revenue for the same period

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/sean-speer/government-interest-payments_b_5698294.html

Increasing the debt by 10 billion a year, is going to increase those interest payments, meaning there will be less money to spend in future budgets.

Most western democracies are headed, in the long-term, to where Spain and Greece already are. The welfare state is not a sustainable model . . . . unless you're willing to pay 80% in taxes, and then tax everyone, not just the half of the country that actually pays taxes.
 
Debt to GDP ratios are the lowest in the western world.

Since when are Germany, Austria, Netherlands, Finland, Denmark, Switzerland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Sweden, and Norway (Among others this is just a partial list), not part of the western world? All of their Debt to GDP ratios are lower than Canada.
 
That's not middle class, that's called poor...

you have too much stuff ;)

seriously, how much dough you need depends where you live

moreover, middle class is a relatively a new idea. started in the 50s, probably died in the 80s
 
Hillary's opened up a big lead over Uncle Bernie. I guess using Denmark and Norway as your ideal model for the U.S. was not a good idea, LOL.
 
Sure, i figure the next 18-24 months will be great... lower taxes, more services, more payments to families... its gonna be sunshine and rainbows.

Once the interest payments in our budgets start ballooning due to $10 billion per year being added to the national debt... its gonna 10 plus years of pain (no matter who is in power) as the move to cut the deficit and then start paying down some of that debt.

We already have austerity in Quebec from years of over spending and corruption. Canada will feel it eventually, but now it seems no one gives a fk about the future.
 
Hillary's opened up a big lead over Uncle Bernie. I guess using Denmark and Norway as your ideal model for the U.S. was not a good idea, LOL.

Burn is there to keep her from not roaming too far away from the centre-left. he's doing his job pretty well and shining a light on wall street excess
 
She'll pivot to the center-right as soon as she's nominated.

true...all she does is pivot... really bad at hiding it too

still, politics are better with a plurality of voices competing for space

meanwhile on the right, Paul Ryan is considered too left for the GOP

And I see, Rubio is coming out against biotech pharma price gouging. time to sell all your biotech stocks.
 
I laughed that Paul Ryan is apparently considering the Speaker job if he can get some consensus from his own GOP House members that they support his rule, this after a few of them have very publically objected to him getting the job and others who say he is "okay" but you just know they will go against anything he tries to do that moves the country forward with Democrats.

I said after the 2012 election when the GOP was asking themselves WTF happened that they could lose to Obama a 2nd time that the party had to have its civil war and split in two so that the Tea Party crashers could be isolated to a desert island while the old guard GOP supporters rebuilt the party back into something that most of the country recognized again. Instead you have 2012 looking to repeat itself and allowing a flawed candidate like Hillary to walk through the White House door for another 4 years.
 
Nanos did the best again. I told you guys. This was their last results (Sunday)

They had:
Liberals 39.1 (actual 39.5)
Cons 30.5 (actual, 31.9)
NDP 19.7 (same, 19.7)
Bloc 5.5 (actual, 4.7)
Green 4.6 (actual, 3.5)
So all of those shy Tories amounted to 1 percent.

Also, Ekos, never poll again.
 
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