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theREALkoreaboy said:
who otherwise would have flooded into europe and north american to kill US.
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You have absolutely no understanding of the religious underpinnings of jihad that drove the majority of foreign fighters to Iraq.

Killing innocents is forbidden to them, and most of them don't buy the arguments of Bin Laden in that regard.

In the most fundamental way, they responded no different than orthodox jews would have, worldwide, had arab countries invaded and occupied Israel. They went to one of their holiest places to defend it.

Feel free to argue that they are misguided, etc, but you'd be hard pressed to find a legit expert on the subject who would conclude that the majority of foreign fighters were anything other than extremely pious muslims doing what they thought was their duty.

If you understood how badly Bin Laden's ilk warped Islam to suit their purposes (namely, by holding up "Jihad" as a 6th pillar of Islam, when it was never intended as such) and how many of the very devout are appalled by this warping, you wouldn't be nearly so terrified of "them" coming over here to get "us".
 
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To some fear is a way of life.....they live in fear of everything. War mongering is simply an act of fear. Someone out there is coming for us so we must kill them because they are ultimately going to kill us.

Good post ME. Love your insight into stuff, it is very similar to how I feel.
 
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heh, nice to see some border jumping the other way....

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2010/03/08/13158751-ap.html

Palin admits family sought medical care in Canada
By LEE-ANNE GOODMAN, The Canadian Press

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Former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin addresses attendees at the National Tea Party Convention in Nashville, Saturday, Feb. 6, 2010. (AP/Ed Reinke)



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WASHINGTON — Sarah Palin’s weekend admission that her family once travelled to Canada to receive treatment under the public health-care system she’s so often demonized prompted skepticism and ridicule Monday among her critics in the United States.

“My first five years of life we spent in Skagway, Alaska, right there by Whitehorse,” the former Alaska governor said Saturday night during a speech in Calgary.

“Believe it or not — this was in the ‘60s — we used to hustle on over the border for health care that we would receive in Whitehorse. I remember my brother, he burned his ankle in some little kid accident thing, and my parents had to put him on a train and rush him over to Whitehorse and I think, isn’t that kind of ironic now. Zooming over the border, getting health care from Canada.”

Always a popular whipping girl among liberal blogs and news sites, Palin was swiftly derided for the comments Monday as the news reverberated through and beyond the U.S. capital.

A headline on the New York media blog Gawker.com read: “Sarah Palin Supports Government-Run Health Care, Inadvertently Uses ’Ironic’ Correctly.”

Sam Stein of the Huffington Post suggested Palin was a hypocrite.
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Hysterical stuff in this article....

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/black-barbie-sold-white-barbie-walmart-store/story?id=10045008


Black Barbie Sold for Less Than White Barbie at Walmart Store
Walmart Says Lower Sales of Ballerina Theresa Barbie Prompted the Price Cut
By ALICE GOMSTYN
ABC NEWS Business Unit
March 9, 2010



Walmart is raising eyebrows after cutting the price of a black Barbie doll to nearly half of that of the doll's white counterpart at one store and possibly others.
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A photo first posted to the humor Web site FunnyJunk.com and later to the Latino Web site Guanabee.com shows packages of Mattel's Ballerina Barbie and Ballerina Theresa dolls hanging side by side at an unidentified store. The Theresa dolls, which feature brown skin and dark hair, are marked as being on sale at $3.00. The Barbies to the right of the Theresa dolls, meanwhile, retain their original price of $5.93. The dolls look identical aside from their color.

Editors at Guanabee.com said the person responsible for the photo told the Web site that it was taken at a Louisiana Walmart store. The person did not return e-mails from ABCNews.com.

A Walmart spokeswoman, who could not verify the exact store shown in the photo, said that the price change on the Theresa doll was part of the chain's efforts to clear shelf space for its new spring inventory.
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"To prepare for (s)pring inventory, a number of items are marked for clearance, " spokeswoman Melissa O'Brien said in an e-mail. "... Both are great dolls. The red price sticker indicates that this particular doll was on clearance when the photo was taken, and though both dolls were priced the same to start, one was marked down due to its lower sales to hopefully increase purchase from customers."

"Pricing like items differently is a part of inventory management in retailing," O'Brien said.

But critics say Walmart should have been more sensitive in its pricing choice.

"The implication of the lowering of the price is that's devaluing the black doll," said Thelma Dye, the executive director of the Northside Center for Child Development, a Harlem, N.Y. organization founded by pioneering psychologists and segregation researchers Kenneth B. Clark and Marnie Phipps Clark.

"While it's clear that's not what was intended, sometimes these things have collateral damage," Dye said.

Other experts agree. Walmart could have decided "that it's really important that we as a company don't send a message that we value blackness less than whiteness," said Lisa Wade, an assistant sociology professor at Occidental College in Los Angeles and the founder of the blog Sociological Images.

Last year, Wade posted a blog entry on another case where a black doll was apparently priced less than its white counterpart at an unidentified store. Wade said that when white dolls outsell black dolls, it's usually because black parents are more likely than white parents to buy their children dolls of a different race.

"Most white parents wouldn't think to buy a black doll for their child, even if they believe in equality and all those things," she said.
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"While it's clear that's not what was intended, sometimes these things have collateral damage," Dye said.

Other experts agree. Walmart could have decided "that it's really important that we as a company don't send a message that we value blackness less than whiteness," said Lisa Wade, an assistant sociology professor at Occidental College in Los Angeles and the founder of the blog Sociological Images.
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Ugh. I know what was intended...to sell the black dolls.

Racial sensitivity can be such a joke sometimes.
 
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corksens said:
Ugh. I know what was intended...to sell the black dolls.

Racial sensitivity can be such a joke sometimes.
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I love the subtlety in that story. The tip toeing is blatant and unintentionally hilarious.

Has there ever been a more carefully placed PR statement such as...

"To prepare for (s)pring inventory, a number of items are marked for clearance, " spokeswoman Melissa O'Brien said in an e-mail. "... Both are great dolls. The red price sticker indicates that this particular doll was on clearance when the photo was taken, and though both dolls were priced the same to start, one was marked down due to its lower sales to hopefully increase purchase from customers."
 
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MindzEye said:
Killing innocents is forbidden to them, and most of them don't buy the arguments of Bin Laden in that regard.

In the most fundamental way, they responded no different than orthodox jews would have, worldwide, had arab countries invaded and occupied Israel. They went to one of their holiest places to defend it.

Feel free to argue that they are misguided, etc, but you'd be hard pressed to find a legit expert on the subject who would conclude that the majority of foreign fighters were anything other than extremely pious muslims doing what they thought was their duty.
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i quite frankly don't care what their warped motivation was. what is inescapable is that there is a small minority of muslims who feel that they need to wage violent jihad on the west. they were doing it before 9/11 and they have continued afterwards. they need to be stood up to with complete resolution and they need to be utterly destroyed. everyone who tries jihad needs to be shown that it is a completely bankrupt and hopeless path that will never succeed.

and please don't try to tell me that orthodox jews in large numbers would be strapping bombs on their chests or hijacking planes to protect their holy land. many of them were mortified at giving palestinians control over the WB and gaza- parts of holy "greater israel", yet they didn't strap bombs on themselves or hijack planes to kill thousands.
 
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by all measures we have, KB, the number of terrorists and terrorist organization has grown - even exploded - since the US first entered Iraq.
 
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and the numbers of them killed has grown- even exploded- and we didn't have another major terrorist act in the following 7.5 years under W.
 
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who is "we"?

you're not american - so "we" must mean the "western nations", but then that would be wrong, because both England and Spain have been the victims of major terrorist attacks since.

and even then, there have been just as many, if not more, ATTEMPTS at terrorism within the U.S. - they've just been stopped now.

But that has nothing to do with fewer terrorists or attempts at terrorism.
 
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"we" are involved in this conflict whether "you" like to admit that or not. in their literature and their propaganda the jihadis have talked about ALL western nations being targets- including canada.

terrorist attacks have been stopped because of the extraordinary measures put in place by the americans to prevent them- again, thanks to W.

and if on 9/12 the US had come out and said- "oh, you got us there, jihadis. good one. we heard you and we promise to be nicer to you" and if we had done NOTHING, do you honestly think the jihadis would have gone away and not carried out more attacks? this is the lefty argument that has always been ridiculous- this argument that an aggressive response to 9/11 has caused terrorism. the terrorism existed BEFORE 9/11, it killed thousands, and it would have continued even without the aggressive response it received.
 
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