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OT: The Official Toronto Raptors Thread

Feeling pretty vindicated on my GTJ takes fwiw. He's currently the 2nd highest salaried player from last year without a home (Hayward...who is also going to be taking 5-6 million to get a job I think). He was given two big opportunities the prove himself the last 2 years and despite that, no one is interested in throwing him anything resembling a bag.
 
MindzEye said:
Feeling pretty vindicated on my GTJ takes fwiw. He's currently the 2nd highest salaried player from last year without a home (Hayward...who is also going to be taking 5-6 million to get a job I think). He was given two big opportunities the prove himself the last 2 years and despite that, no one is interested in throwing him anything resembling a bag.
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Yup...saw an article that surmised that GTJ would struggle to get anything near the MLE. He's in no-man's-land right now with how the NBA salaries are structured.
 
zeke said:
Bertans is a free agent i'd sign him.
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I think....I think the Raptors have their bi annual exemption to use. Which is 4.7 million of cap exempt fun money. There are a few guys who have slipped through the cracks that we should be looking at.

Bertans
Walker IV
Talen Horton Tucker
Dennis Smith Jr
Kris Dunn
 
i think we're all full of guards tbh.

Bertans isn't great but he'd be a very nice fit as a big body who can still really, really shoot.
 
I guess that depends on if you insist on Scottie being a guard, whether we should force feed minutes to Gradey regardless of how he plays in them and whether we're keeping Bruce Brown.

Because I'm not convinced that any of those are the right things

- Scottie should be used as a PF the same way Lebron is
- Gradey's minutes should be connected to performance
- A Bruce Brown trade is pretty close to definite


Also, if RJ's perimeter defence and above the break shooting doesn't show some improvement this year, have to start looking at giving him some SF minutes.

Fwiw, what Bertans is, Vezenkov is probably a better version of.
 
on offense scottie's gonna be handling the ball either way.

on defense you don't want scottie to be stuck having to defend the post i don't think. you want him to be able to use him on more matchups than that.
 
zeke said:
on offense scottie's gonna be handling the ball either way.

on defense you don't want scottie to be stuck having to defend the post i don't think. you want him to be able to use him on more matchups than that.
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Power forwards don't really play in the post anymore though and Scottie's D is most effective as a helper.

Fwiw, here's his defensive matchup charts from last year

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He's already a 3 or 4 anyway.
 
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There's no reason for us to not deep dick this group and for the entire tournament to be a huge coming out party as an international basketball power.

Spain is #2 in the world and this is their roster:

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This isn't the era of the Gasol's. We should dad dick them.

Greece is a bunch of Euro league guys and Giannis. Australia a few NBA depth players and then a mix of aussie league and rando league pros.

Even with Kerr/GSW fucking us over and not allowing Wiggins to go, Shai & Jamal gives us star power to go head to head with anyone and our rotation guys around are all high level NBA role players (RJ, Brooks, Dort) or legit decent NBA rotation players (NAW, Kelly, Powell, Nembhard, Lyles).

The only roster better is the US.

My only concern is the lack of size inside. International ball still features a lot of inside out movement of the ball and is heavy on interior D and rebounding. Need Kelly, Powell, Lyles (and Birch?) to do that work. Would be really nice if we produced a big that wrecks international ball (Edey?) to go with the rest of this generation.
 
Just to bring closure to an old ass argument


View: https://x.com/StevenVSharma/status/1810357466816983167

Kawhi was willing to stay, we very much were in the conversation to make that happen.

The Clippers were willing to blow their brains out, and Masai either wasn't, or was and OKC preferred the Clippers deal. I remember a lot of arguments after Kawhi left saying that we had no chance, he was always gone, etc.

The reported deal OKC asked for was Pascal + Fred + a bag of 1sts, but they needed us to take PG and Westbrook. The Clippers deal was Shai, Galinari, 5 1sts, 2 swaps for PG.
 
MindzEye said:
Just to bring closure to an old ass argument


View: https://x.com/StevenVSharma/status/1810357466816983167

Kawhi was willing to stay, we very much were in the conversation to make that happen.

The Clippers were willing to blow their brains out, and Masai either wasn't, or was and OKC preferred the Clippers deal. I remember a lot of arguments after Kawhi left saying that we had no chance, he was always gone, etc.

The reported deal OKC asked for was Pascal + Fred + a bag of 1sts, but they needed us to take PG and Westbrook. The Clippers deal was Shai, Galinari, 5 1sts, 2 swaps for PG.
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Masai wasnt willing to be make a stupid deal like others
 
GEEMAN said:
Masai wasnt willing to be make a stupid deal like others
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Yeah, because honestly...Shai was considered a good prospect at the time, was taken 11th overall a year earlier and had a solid but unspectacular rookie season.... but I don't even think Presti considered him a future MVP candidate. If 24 yr old Pascal and 24 yr old Fred are offered with a bucket of pics, OKC probably takes our offer over the Clippers offer.

Funny how things work out.
 
MindzEye said:
Yeah, because honestly...Shai was considered a good prospect at the time, was taken 11th overall a year earlier and had a solid but unspectacular rookie season.... but I don't even think Presti considered him a future MVP candidate. If 24 yr old Pascal and 24 yr old Fred are offered with a bucket of pics, OKC probably takes our offer over the Clippers offer.

Funny how things work out.
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Sometimes the best deals are the ones you dont make
 
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