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OT: The Toronto Blue Jays

MyNameIsJonas said:
I tend to agree

EE mught be brought back to appease angry fans
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If the goal was truly Roark and the likes of Miley, throwing the fans a bone is probably a good idea.

This admin took over a league leader in attendance and has driven most of them away.

Best case senerio in terms of fans is probably bringing back and EE and hoping that Vlad hits the fuck out of the ball.

I assume that once again this season I will be one of the few from this board to watch nearly all their games again.
 
EE will be a cheap 1/10 bone to throw to the fans after the SP comes off as underwealming even though Shaw, Thames or even Smoak make more baseball sense
 
Meh. If the plan is to lose 90 games again I have no issue with giving Tellez more time at 1B and having Vlad play some games there if he can't handle 3rd.

I think EE fits better if they are just looking for a good vet bat while losing games.
 
Sure line drive to the forearm. Oblique strain took him out as well. Upon further digging maybe toast was a harsh word. His velo has been the same. Swstr% same. 34 next season with a ton of mileage. Indians save big money. We're clearly the new Toronto Indians.

Clase throws gas and is only 21. Maybe the Indians see something there. We don't have a comparable arm to move. DeShields is ass.

Who we giving up for Kluber?
 
A 21 year old relief pitcher is not such a valuable prospect.

Why are people so opposed to actually trying to improve this team? Getting Kluber for basically nothing would have been great for this team. Wouldn't have even impacted their flexibility, and came with almost no risk. This is the exact kind of move they should be looking at if they want low risk moves that don't hurt their long term salary structure. Buy low on an aging vet that is coming off an injury with legit elite upside and a short term commitment.

If their plan was actually what they say it is being in on Kluber was a no brainier.
 
If any of the young position player depth they had acquired in the past two years had any value, it would have been a pretty easy offer to top. They blew their trade chips on the likes of Drury, Fisher and McKinney and immediately after, it was clear that those guys had zero (or even negative) value.

As for the pitching prospect, how about one of the many depth starters Atkins has spent the last several years acquiring in droves? Too bad they’re all worthless as well.

This is another one of the negative side effects of being the smartest guys in the room. Nobody else is smart enough to take your players, no matter how much “intriguing depth”, “exciting versatility” or “handedness” they can offer.
 
Just did a quick look at some Top Rangers Prospects lists and Clase is anywhere from 20s to not ranked. If it seriously not possible for the Jays to beat that offer without destroying the organization's future their system is in a very sad state.
 
leafman101 said:
Just did a quick look at some Top Rangers Prospects lists and Clase is anywhere from 20s to not ranked. If it seriously not possible for the Jays to beat that offer without destroying the organization's future their system is in a very sad state.
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yeah this miss is an extra level of annoying. it's exactly the damn move their "clever" strategy should have been on. sure there's injury risk but that's a damn modest contract for huge upside, and it would have cost them maybe one good but not great prospect - something which they should easily be able to afford after all these years of hording.
 
zeke said:
yeah this miss is an extra level of annoying. it's exactly the damn move their "clever" strategy should have been on. sure there's injury risk but that's a damn modest contract for huge upside, and it would have cost them maybe one good but not great prospect - something which they should easily be able to afford after all these years of hording.
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highly doubt Kluber wanted to come here
 
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