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OT: The Toronto Blue Jays

axlsalinger said:
Horrible way to end a series. Gotta be 100% sure to make a call like that.
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Yeah, hate to end it on any ump call, but man, you need to have it right. Of course, it's one of the stupidest rules in MLB, since there's no clear definition of what counts as a checked swing. It's literally if the ump thought he made a try at the ball. It would be like in hockey if you could cancel an offsides call because you thought the player made an attempt to get back across the line.
 
That’s some high praise!

Moreno is playing in the AFL this year. He didn’t get into either of the first two games but I think he should start tonight.
 
Jays next manager will be Cito. In a caretaker role until they get competitive again and bring in Gibby.
 
UWHabs said:
Yeah, hate to end it on any ump call, but man, you need to have it right. Of course, it's one of the stupidest rules in MLB, since there's no clear definition of what counts as a checked swing. It's literally if the ump thought he made a try at the ball. It would be like in hockey if you could cancel an offsides call because you thought the player made an attempt to get back across the line.
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The definition, as I understand it, is that the barrel of the bat needs to extend past the plane of the top of home plate for it to count as a swing. That particular swing could not have done that. It was well and truly "checked" before breaking the plane. The end of the bat doesn't waggle in the slightest and that's usually the telltale sign that a hitter has committed to the swing. But the umps right now are having enough trouble figuring out how the strike zone works, never mind something as esoteric as a checked swing. In fact, all the major sports are letting things slide when it comes to the competencies of their officials because they figure that they can always use video review to correct any mistakes. But even with video they still get it wrong most of the time, especially in hockey. I'd sooner get rid of video review in all sports and put the money into training referees and umpires to be better at their jobs. If they're going to blow the call anyway, at least take out the delays caused by video review.
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
The definition, as I understand it, is that the barrel of the bat needs to extend past the plane of the top of home plate for it to count as a swing. That particular swing could not have done that. It was well and truly "checked" before breaking the plane. The end of the bat doesn't waggle in the slightest and that's usually the telltale sign that a hitter has committed to the swing. But the umps right now are having enough trouble figuring out how the strike zone works, never mind something as esoteric as a checked swing. In fact, all the major sports are letting things slide when it comes to the competencies of their officials because they figure that they can always use video review to correct any mistakes. But even with video they still get it wrong most of the time, especially in hockey. I'd sooner get rid of video review in all sports and put the money into training referees and umpires to be better at their jobs. If they're going to blow the call anyway, at least take out the delays caused by video review.
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Yeah, nothing is more annoying than a long review that just ends up "inconclusive", especially if you feel there's an angle that shows it.

I've love for video review to essentially only be used for truly blown calls. So like, if the guy clearly beats the throw by like a step but the ump called him out, I want review for that. So basically like a 30-second time limit on them. If you can't figure it out in those 30 seconds, then let the call on the field stand. Like the checked swing, you could get one slo-mo view of the play and it's obvious it was checked, so you should be able to review that. But when they have to match and time-sync the 5 camera angles, yeah, I'm fine with that having been an ump's decision.
 
Deckie007 said:
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Once again, the game would have been quite different had the umpire known how the strike zone works. Eovaldi threw a perfect pitch, tied up the hitter and (as the overhead replay showed) got it right over the plate. But the call from the ump was a ball so instead of a strikeout and the inning ending without any damage done, the game turned into a shit show.
 
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