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OT: The Toronto Blue Jays

MyNameIsJonas said:
I understand this sentiment but I at minimum would like to see what he looks like away from this group of hitting coaches

It’s maddening that a year out from his free agency it’s basically impossible to work out an extension with him due to his regression and the same fucking coaches are still here. All the underlying numbers still love Vlad but something is off and no one new has been brought in to figure out how or why. Just Don fucking Mattingly
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They glued him to Edwin Encarnacion recently. That dude knew how to hit and make adjustment.
 
It's a mystery. Both last year and this, his x-stats (xwOBA, xSLG, xBA, etc...) all are great. .275-.300 hitter, SLG .475-.500. But the actual production is dreadful. But with those x-stats and the pedigree, he's basically in the perfect spot to just put it all together in his walk year and get paid. Compared to like Soto where one down year in 2022 people were almost writing him off as being dumb to not take the crazy Washington deal, and even in that year was still more valuable than Vlad outside of his big year, and suddenly has gone back to being a star.
 
We talked about him a lot in the off-season. Had some injury issues last year but is one of our top prospects, 24 years old with a wRC+ of 162 so far this year and a strong arm who can handle 3B and RF. Can take a walk and hit 26 homers in 526 PA's in 2022.
 
Barger is a very good prospect that had a very bad year last year.

But this year he's off to a phenomenal start. His hitting line is kinda perfection all across the line - patience, contact, power all look good to excellent.

Also seems to be a versatile IF/OF though i don't think he will play much SS which was his position coming up.
 
the three standouts so far in Buffalo:

2B Martinez (22): 79pa, 7.6b%, 21.5k%, .367bip, .333avg, .347iso, 168wrc+
1B Horwitz (26): 86pa, 20.9b%, 12.8k%, .411bip, .353avg, .132iso, 164wrc+
3B Barger (24): 85pa, 16.5b%, 17.6k%, .365bip, .314avg, .271iso, 163wrc+

Barger's is my favorite line of the three because it's the best combo of patience (bb%), contact (avg without needing too much babip), and power (iso). Orelvis' patience still needs work and Horwitz is a high babip guy without much power still.

Also, Barger is the most flexible defensively and apparently can field IF and OF.
 
If Barger hits, i think it accomplishes 2 things

1) When KK comes back, its understood it's as an OF4 ( or by this time IKF is brutal and Barger takes over 3B)

2) I assume it means the end of Vogelbach on the roster ( and maybe Votto in the minors) as Barger is the LHH we actually use
 
MyNameIsJonas said:
If Barger hits, i think it accomplishes 2 things

1) When KK comes back, its understood it's as an OF4 ( or by this time IKF is brutal and Barger takes over 3B)

2) I assume it means the end of Vogelbach on the roster ( and maybe Votto in the minors) as Barger is the LHH we actually use
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your optimism is adorable
 
Jays down 3-2 once again scuffling to score against a jobber on the Royals, down 1, with Davis/Turner on the bench and a man on, John Schneider watches Dan Vogelbach K vs a LHP.

This offense is pretty bad, and the fucking manager is inept to generate positive matchups using his bench late in games.

He is absolutely terrible, and worse than Montoyo
 
Should've pinch-hit with Justin Turner there. But it also should be understood that he had hit the ball very hard twice earlier, and this was only the 6th inning. The only thing that is "absolutely terrible", are these takes.
 
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