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OT: World Politics

Some people. Probably most.

But some people are cool with it. Same as in Brazil and the US. Common thread? Religious extremists, I think.

Anyway, I hope they can pull this off. Netanyahu is a cynical opportunist seeking to avoid legal consequences…

Kind of crazy how simply not being in total control of society manages to radicalize so many religious people.

We should probably look into that
 
War, what is it good for?
aside from population control, absolutely nothin’
“Deforestation often increases during conflicts. Much of the time this is due to overharvesting by communities who are suddenly reliant on wood and charcoal for fuel and heating. But it can also be as a result of armed or criminal gangs taking advantage of the collapse of management systems. Civilian coping strategies can also lead to the overharvesting of other natural resources or to environmentally damaging practices such as artisanal oil refining. And in some cases, community systems of sustainable resource management may be disrupted.

Environmental damage and degradation can also stem from resource extraction used to finance conflicts. In many conflicts, armed groups vie for control over oil, mineral resources or timber. Processing methods, such as the use of mercury in gold mining, can pollute water bodies. In addition to armed groups and artisanal workers, private companies may also be active in areas affected by conflict, often operating with minimal environmental oversight.

Human displacement is common to many conflicts. Camps for refugees and internally displaced peoples can have large environmental footprints, particularly where they are unplanned or lack essential services, like water, sanitation and waste management. Their location is also important, as camp residents may be compelled to use local resources such as firewood, which can place local resources under pressure. People displaced by conflict may also move internally to urban areas, swelling the population and placing local environmental services under strain. “
There are still to this day WW1 shells that occasionally get accidentally disturbed, explode and kill people in France and Belgium. The Belgian Army has a unit that does nothing else except "harvest" unexploded ordinance from battlefields where a shot hasn't been fired in anger for over 100 years.

When the Romans finally lost their patience with the Carthaginians after the Third Punic War, they sowed the earth with salt so that nothing would grow there and even today, not much does.
 
There are still to this day WW1 shells that occasionally get accidentally disturbed, explode and kill people in France and Belgium. The Belgian Army has a unit that does nothing else except "harvest" unexploded ordinance from battlefields where a shot hasn't been fired in anger for over 100 years.

When the Romans finally lost their patience with the Carthaginians after the Third Punic War, they sowed the earth with salt so that nothing would grow there and even today, not much does.
Carthage is also basically in a desert so not sure the salt has much to do with it... and that might also be an urban legend
 
Bibi is, as I have said repeatedly, a "basically" fascist. But if you say it out loud you get labeled as an anti-Semite. Last I heard, fascism wasn't a religion (except, perhaps, to fascists themselves)
you are getting soft, now he is just "basically" a fascist, three weeks ago, he was almost a Nazi in your eyes
 
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Not sure I agree with the notion that there’s “no possibility of victory” for Russia.

I think at this point, if Russia can hang on to the additional territory in Eastern Ukraine they’ve seized, as well as their land bridge to Crimea, they’ll take that as their “victory”.

So at this point, Putin’s just going to keep throwing waves of meat at the Ukrainians in the hopes that he can turn this into a brutal stalemate and hold out to the point where America and enough of Europe lose interest in continuing to support Ukraine.

Then restart the same patient process they went through between 2014-2022 of having their new conquests become a fait accompli, slowly normalize their international relations and build up to the next big, wet bite they’ll take out of Ukraine’s territory once they’re ready.
 
Not sure I agree with the notion that there’s “no possibility of victory” for Russia.

I think at this point, if Russia can hang on to the additional territory in Eastern Ukraine they’ve seized, as well as their land bridge to Crimea, they’ll take that as their “victory”.

So at this point, Putin’s just going to keep throwing waves of meat at the Ukrainians in the hopes that he can turn this into a brutal stalemate and hold out to the point where America and enough of Europe lose interest in continuing to support Ukraine.

Then restart the same patient process they went through between 2014-2022 of having their new conquests become a fait accompli, slowly normalize their international relations and build up to the next big, wet bite they’ll take out of Ukraine’s territory once they’re ready.
I mean Tom is an expert on Russia and war history, I'll take his word for it. What you describe as a "brutal stalemate" is probably the best they can hope for. If Putin had any common sense left this war would already be over.

Then restart the same patient process they went through between 2014-2022 of having their new conquests become a fait accompli, slowly normalize their international relations and build up to the next big, wet bite they’ll take out of Ukraine’s territory once they’re ready.

As for this last part, Putin's efforts have actually strengthened NATO and EU and shown most of the world (except for those people who are either incredibly dim, or for sale) that he's a fraud. And it doesn't sound like he's healthy enough to play the long game again anyway, in a vastly different set of circumstances where everybody now knows that the mythical Russian military doesn't really exist.
 
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if Russia can hang on to the additional territory in Eastern Ukraine they’ve seized, as well as their land bridge to Crimea, they’ll take that as their “victory”.

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You're not wrong, but that's a far cry from "no more nato on western border", "de nazification of Ukraine", "3 days to Kyiv" etc etc.
 
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