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The 2019-2020 MotherFucking Season Thread

I don't think it's a Freddy problem as much as it is an every goalie problem.

But that's precisely the problem. You'd think Freddy was Dominic Hasek based on the media attention he gets. In reality he's just like everyone else. A step below the truly elite, and I wouldn't even trust the truly elite to be elite for all 4 rounds of a playoff.
 
hockeylover said:
What happened to Mirtle?

I feel like he's just like every other talking head now.
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Being the editor of a $50M niche startup is much different than being the editor for a half billion dollar media company. The athletic has to try and get joe from the bridge to subscribe and he dont like them numbers
 
He's a clown trying to justify his bad takes now. I called him out for the click baity title and even exploring this as a legitimate issue, and he responded that he said no and they're a contender, but that's not the fucking point...I mean, who the fuck sells when they're in a playoff spot? Who even considers it? The entire premise of the article is an excuse to whip up angst among a fanbase predisposed to league-leading angst/24 numbers. It's entirely transparent what the point of this article is. That he uses that as a platform to write an article stating the obvious is just hack shit.

Zeke is grilling him over calling Freddy team MVP as recent as Dec-Jan and he's clowning it up again on that topic. It's a shame because a few years ago he really seemed like he was going to be a breath of fresh air in a tragically shit media environment. He's quickly becoming Simmons/Cox with a veneer of analytics thrown on top.
 
In other online horseshit news. Esteemed breaker of the Campbell/Clifford deal, Mike Litorous, is claiming that the Leafs are likely within 48 hours of pulling the trigger on a top 4 defender with either Anaheim or New Jersey.

 
zeke said:
What goalie in recent memory was a good starter elsewhere soon before or soon after failing here?
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Just for the fun of it. After they left the crease in Toronto:


Garret Sparks:

In his first year since leaving Toronto, he's a .904 SV% platoon/backup goalie in the AHL.

Curtis McElhinney:

He's remained a backup goalie since leaving Toronto. His numbers are down since leaving the Leafs, but he's still posted a respectable .911 SV% in two seasons as a back-up for Carolina last year & Tampa this year.

James Reimer:

Probably the most successful of our ex-goalies. While he's never been a clear-cut starter in the four years since leaving Toronto, he's been the 1A or 1B goalie in a platoon every season, and is sporting a .913 SV% over that span.

Jonathan Bernier:

Bernier has fared slightly worse, but pretty similar to James Reimer in his post-Leaf career. He's averaging about 35 games per year as a platoon/backup goalie, with a .910 SV% over that span.

Ben Scrivens:

Had a pretty good year as a platoon/backup in a season split between LA and Edmonton his first year after leaving Toronto. He then had a horriawful year as a starter in Edmonton where he posted an .890 SV% in 57 games. He then bounced between the AHL and Montreal for a year, had two OK'ish years as a starter in the KHL and appears to have retired from pro hockey after the 2017-18 season.

Jonas "THE MONSTER" Gustavsson:

Kicked around in the NHL for five more years after leaving Toronto as a mediocre backup for Detroit, Boston & Edmonton, with a few stints in the AHL along the way, before leaving for Sweden in 2017-18, where he's still playing to this day as an OK starter in that league.

Jean-Sebastien Giguere:

Played three more seasons in the NHL after leaving Toronto as an OK backup in Colorado before calling it a career.

Vesa Toskala

Traded by the Leafs to Anaheim, who immediately banished him to the press box. He was subsequently traded to Calgary where he finished up as their backup goalie. The following season he sat out almost the entire season, eventually playing two games in the Swedish Elite League (posting an .898 SV%).

He went to the Finnish league the following year, and after posting a 1-15-5 record & .885 SV% through 22 games, he reportedly got drunk, lit his goalie equipment on fire and left the team. About a year later, he formally announced his retirement.

Andrew Raycroft

Spent four more years in the NHL as a mediocre backup goalie for three different teams, before eventually getting banished to the AHL (where he put up an .891 SV% in 21 games). He then spent one year as an OK starter in the Italian Hockey League, followed by one year as an .896 SV% starting goalie in the Swedish Elite League before calling it a career.

Jean-Sebastien Aubin:

Played one more year in the NHL as a .886 SV% backup goalie for LA, before ending up in the AHL and then Europe to finish up his career.

Ed Belfour:

Played one more season in the NHL with Florida, where he put up a .902 SV% in 58 games for Florida, followed by one season in Sweden, before he retired to a life of non-stop partying and excessive drinking.

Curtis Joseph

Lasted all of one-and-a-half seasons as Detroit's starter, posting a .911 SV% in that span, before the Red Wings quickly realized he wasn't the elite MVP calibre goalie he'd been advertised to be by the Toronto media and they brought Dominik Hasek out of retirement to replace him.

After Detroit, he was an abysmal starter for Phoenix for two seasons, a sub-par backup for two more years after that for Calgary & Toronto, and then he retired.

Felix Potvin:

Quickly became a journeyman after leaving Toronto, bouncing between five different organizations where he rarely did better than a .905 SV% as either a starter or a backup goalie.

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Honestly...I could probably keep going, but I'll stop here.
 
MindzEye said:
Maybe my problem is that I saw him as the chosen one, and he's just not. That's my fault, not his.
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Yeah he had some brutal takes back in the day too. That was just during a time where he was the ONLY one so he seemed better than he really was. Now if you look hard enough, twitter has some half intelligent people.

I do think the Athletic is mostly shit though. I'm a fan of Dom but that's basically it.
 
Artnes said:
The infamous disclaimer of trades fall through all the time as a fall back if/when this back fires
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Yeah, this guy seems to like the attention a bit much. He was an hour ahead of everyone on the Campbell/Clifford deal though, so short of some sort of an explanation on that, he deserves some consideration when he speaks on shit like this.
 
Am I good or am I good?



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If he hits on this one then he has a believe in me. Im checked into the Ducks and Devils talk and nothing from that end yet
 
He's really trying to grasp onto his 15 minutes. He doesn't know anything. Likely just a friend of one of the players traded.
 
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