The Fucking Season Thread - Redemption Tour '22
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Wayward DP
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get involved, Dubie!
zeke
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His nerdies actually are decent, at least defensively, and he actually has been forced into top4 minutes this year for the first time in years thanks to the Ellis injury.
But him being top 4 I'd guess is probably yet another reason why the flyers suck. Last time he was top 4 (in SJ) the results were terrible.
Personally I stay away.
But him being top 4 I'd guess is probably yet another reason why the flyers suck. Last time he was top 4 (in SJ) the results were terrible.
Personally I stay away.
JackBurton
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Jack's Price is "Only Going Up". I heard that right before he started playing like shit. Thankfully Dubas waited.
Preston
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Might have heard that from me tbh.
Great timing for a slump. Even after this stretch he's still at .926 which tells you how good he has been this season. Keep waiting Doobs. Hope he gets his game back but if he doesn't you want to find out before you put pen to paper.
Great timing for a slump. Even after this stretch he's still at .926 which tells you how good he has been this season. Keep waiting Doobs. Hope he gets his game back but if he doesn't you want to find out before you put pen to paper.
JackBurton
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Or maybe this dude:
I believe Kypreos 13 days ago was on the 6.5 per for 5 years train.
I believe Kypreos 13 days ago was on the 6.5 per for 5 years train.
JackBurton
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I love the irony in this market of Dubas being destroyed for contracts to superstars and those same people wanting to just open the vault for guys not in their league. They wanted Hyman to be give whatever he asked.
Volcanologist
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Dubas got Mrazek because he couldn't gamble on such a small sample size. He needed to see Jack for an entire season plus playoffs, with the starter workload.
zeke
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And in the metro and central.
LeafOfFaith
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Still can’t believe there are several teams higher than us, and two in our own division.
JackBurton
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If we win those games in hand we have compared to majority ahead of us we'll be in good shape
zeke
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Leafs are at a 116pt pace, and it looks very sustainable based on their underlying numbers (maybe should be even better, if anything).
Last 15yrs Top-5 points (pace) teams:
* = ~40gms in, 1/2 of a regular season
** = 56gm season, 2/3 of a regular season
*** = ~70gm season, 7/8 of a regular season
**** = 48gm season, 3/5 of a regular season
21-22*: 1. COL 126, 2. CAR 122, 3. FLA 120, 4. TBL 116, 5. TOR 116
20-21**: 1. COL 120, 2. VGK 120, 3. CAR 117, 4. FLA 116, 5. PIT 113
19-20***: 1. BOS 117, 2. STL 109, 3. COL 108, 4. TBL 108, 5. WSH 107
18-19: 1. TBL 128, 2. CGY 107, 3. BOS 107, 4. WSH 104, 5. NYI 103
17-18: 1. NSH 117, 2. WPG 114, 3. TBL 113, 4. BOS 112, 5. VGK 109
16-17: 1. WSH 118, 2. PIT 111, 3. CHI 109, 4. CBJ 108, 5. MIN 106
15-16: 1. WSH 120, 2. DAL 109, 3. STL 107, 4. PIT 104, 5. CHI 103
14-15: 1. NYR 113, 2. MTL 110, 3. ANA 109, 4. STL 109, 5. TBL 108
13-14: 1. BOS 117, 2. ANA 116, 3. COL 112, 4. STL 111, 5. SJS 111
12-13****: 1. CHI 132, 2. PIT 123, 3. ANA 113, 4. MTL 108, 5. BOS 106
11-12: 1. VAN 111, 2. NYR 109, 3. STL 109, 4. PIT 108, 5. NSH 104
10-11: 1. VAN 117, 2. WSH 107, 3. PHI 106, 4. PIT 106, 5. SJS 105
09-10: 1. WSH 121, 2. SJS 113, 3. CHI 112, 4. PHX 107, 5. VAN 103
08-09: 1. SJS 117, 2. BOS 116, 3. DET 112, 4. WSH 108, 5. NJD 106
07-08: 1. DET 115, 2. SJS 108, 3. MTL 104, 4. PIT 102, 5. ANA 102
06-07: 1. BUF 113, 2. DET 113, 3. NSH 110, 4. ANA 110, 5. SJS 107
05-06: 1. DET 124, 2. OTT 113, 3. DAL 112, 4. CAR 112, 5. BUF 110
So the only times that 116pts hasn't been good enough for at least 2nd place in the league have been the shortened seasons - in other words, the small sample variation seasons, which is probably what we;re seeing right now halfway through this one.
So it becomes a question of which of the top team is playing the most sustainable brand of hockey, and i'd say the Leafs are arguably the least likely to fall off their pace.
Of course, there's always the chance that this season is special - that circumstances have widened the gap between the haves and have nots this year, maybe something to do with a bunch of teams finally really understanding how to work the cap right while others are still in the dark ages, and/or maybe that the last two weird seasons made a bunch of teams think they were doing things right when they were just getting lucky which has not ended in disaster.
One thing to keep an eye on for sure is the ridiculous scoring paces that Colorado and Florida are putting up. It's pretty dang scary. Colorado is on pace for 336 goals, Florida is on pace for 330 goals. Those would be the highest totals since Mario's Pens in 95-96. The only teams to crack 290 in the last decade are TB '19 with 319 and WSH '13 with 313. A betting man would say they'll both fall significantly off those scoring paces but then again maybe not.
Last 15yrs Top-5 points (pace) teams:
* = ~40gms in, 1/2 of a regular season
** = 56gm season, 2/3 of a regular season
*** = ~70gm season, 7/8 of a regular season
**** = 48gm season, 3/5 of a regular season
21-22*: 1. COL 126, 2. CAR 122, 3. FLA 120, 4. TBL 116, 5. TOR 116
20-21**: 1. COL 120, 2. VGK 120, 3. CAR 117, 4. FLA 116, 5. PIT 113
19-20***: 1. BOS 117, 2. STL 109, 3. COL 108, 4. TBL 108, 5. WSH 107
18-19: 1. TBL 128, 2. CGY 107, 3. BOS 107, 4. WSH 104, 5. NYI 103
17-18: 1. NSH 117, 2. WPG 114, 3. TBL 113, 4. BOS 112, 5. VGK 109
16-17: 1. WSH 118, 2. PIT 111, 3. CHI 109, 4. CBJ 108, 5. MIN 106
15-16: 1. WSH 120, 2. DAL 109, 3. STL 107, 4. PIT 104, 5. CHI 103
14-15: 1. NYR 113, 2. MTL 110, 3. ANA 109, 4. STL 109, 5. TBL 108
13-14: 1. BOS 117, 2. ANA 116, 3. COL 112, 4. STL 111, 5. SJS 111
12-13****: 1. CHI 132, 2. PIT 123, 3. ANA 113, 4. MTL 108, 5. BOS 106
11-12: 1. VAN 111, 2. NYR 109, 3. STL 109, 4. PIT 108, 5. NSH 104
10-11: 1. VAN 117, 2. WSH 107, 3. PHI 106, 4. PIT 106, 5. SJS 105
09-10: 1. WSH 121, 2. SJS 113, 3. CHI 112, 4. PHX 107, 5. VAN 103
08-09: 1. SJS 117, 2. BOS 116, 3. DET 112, 4. WSH 108, 5. NJD 106
07-08: 1. DET 115, 2. SJS 108, 3. MTL 104, 4. PIT 102, 5. ANA 102
06-07: 1. BUF 113, 2. DET 113, 3. NSH 110, 4. ANA 110, 5. SJS 107
05-06: 1. DET 124, 2. OTT 113, 3. DAL 112, 4. CAR 112, 5. BUF 110
So the only times that 116pts hasn't been good enough for at least 2nd place in the league have been the shortened seasons - in other words, the small sample variation seasons, which is probably what we;re seeing right now halfway through this one.
So it becomes a question of which of the top team is playing the most sustainable brand of hockey, and i'd say the Leafs are arguably the least likely to fall off their pace.
Of course, there's always the chance that this season is special - that circumstances have widened the gap between the haves and have nots this year, maybe something to do with a bunch of teams finally really understanding how to work the cap right while others are still in the dark ages, and/or maybe that the last two weird seasons made a bunch of teams think they were doing things right when they were just getting lucky which has not ended in disaster.
One thing to keep an eye on for sure is the ridiculous scoring paces that Colorado and Florida are putting up. It's pretty dang scary. Colorado is on pace for 336 goals, Florida is on pace for 330 goals. Those would be the highest totals since Mario's Pens in 95-96. The only teams to crack 290 in the last decade are TB '19 with 319 and WSH '13 with 313. A betting man would say they'll both fall significantly off those scoring paces but then again maybe not.
LeafOfFaith
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And how are those teams better offensively than us? I don't see them being any better on paper, and yet.