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I think you're reading too much into the Lou & Babcock hires.
hey, I’m freebasing hopium that he’ll still hire Tulsky too….

I think you're reading too much into the Lou & Babcock hires.
Just making sure I got Shanny's timeline of events right:
- Kyle's agent lays out framework of financial compensation
- Shanny gets approved by board, presents Dubas contract
- Dubas says k cool gotta run it by my fam
- Shanny says maybe don't give a presser yet until you've decided
- Shanny says he's caught off guard by the extent of Dubas' uncertainty, wonders if he needs a backup plan
- reaches out to Dubas again
- Dubas emails new financial terms that were, according to Shanny, much different
- Shanny decides to go in another direction
That's basically the story, right?
Ah, okay thank you.iirc Dubas didn't email the financial terms.
After a few days he emailed Shanny to say he did want the job after all.
his agent presented the new terms to shanny.
i think that's the story.
hey, I’m freebasing hopium that he’ll still hire Tulsky too….![]()
I'm just not willing to accept that the moves I liked were Dubas moves and the moves I didn't were forced on him by Shanahan.
Too convenient, too "choose your own adventure-y"
I'm sure it's true Leafs management argued vociferously on how to "fix" this team. I'm sure they were at their wits end trying to figure out why a great regular season team couldn't get over the hump.
I'm still not entirely sure if any of it was to an abnormal level that doesn't happen in other organizations otherwise, why did either party even pretend they wanted to continue this partnership?
you’re choosing your own adventure to ignore the reporting that says Shanny pushed/blocked moves.
Like I say, youre choosing to disregard the reporting that he blocked deals and pushed others…
if it's true that as mirtle's saying, shanny actively prevented him from making deals that they believed would help them win, then dubas shouldn't have returned at any price. like where did the first financial package come from? why express interest in that initially?
that frankly paints the top two execs of one of the best teams in the league both as weak and incompetent.
Dubas is weak for crying, and Shannahan was incompetent for firing him.
why even bother remaining GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs, for $20-30m?