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The Mother-fucking goddamn Off-season Thread

One text of disgruntledness to Pittsburgh 60 seconds later by someone looking to hedge a job should Kyle land there.

Implausible

You are discounting how fucked up the NHL really is. Game management? Suspensions? Lies?
 
LeafOfFaith said:
Why does he want to ditch his current job with unfinished business, leave under the circumstances he left under, to get a chance at reshaping Pittsburgh “in a few years” after they’re done catering to Crosby? What is compelling in any of that?
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Cha Cha Cha Shanny

And $
 
Not saying I've done this sort of Machiavellian shit in the past but yeah, seen a lot in my time.
 
Habsy said:
Already answered
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To debate it further would be to just repeat.

Suffice it to say there’s nothing in Pittsburgh that would be more compelling than in Toronto, and nothing would justify him having intentionally done what he did to his name and rep in order to get there.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
To debate it further would be to just repeat.

Suffice it to say there’s nothing in Pittsburgh that would be more compelling than in Toronto, and nothing would justify him having intentionally done what he did to his name and rep in order to get there.
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Get married, have kids.

Nothing compelling. You're a little out of touch on this one mate.
 
Habsy said:
Get married, have kids.

Nothing compelling. You're a little out of touch on this one mate.
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I don’t get it. The family troubles get solved by moving your family to Pittsburgh, which has a shittier team and nowhere near the resources of the Leafs, and making less money?
 
Wayward DP said:
nah I think it would be more like this:

- Dubie and Leafs are talking contract, reach some sort of agreement
- Dubie hears from a little birdie that Pitts likes him and would be willing to offer him xxxx amount, which is higher than Toronto
- Dubie talks to his wife, who the fuck knows that they discuss, but it leads to last Monday's press conference
- Dubie tries to gain leverage in Leafs contract talks through presser, fails disastrously
and the rest we mostly know

I'm not saying I subscribe to this theory, but it is plausible to me.

I.e. the thing that changed or moved the needle was Pitts reaching out to Dubie (illegally, I may add) to try and tempt him away. He begins having second thoughts, decides if he's going to stay he should at least earn what he could elsewhere, etc. etc.
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If that presser was an attempt to gain leverage then holy shit they’ve dodged a bullet and I totally get why we overpaid everybody.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
Why does he want to ditch his current job with unfinished business, leave under the circumstances he left under, to get a chance at reshaping Pittsburgh “in a few years” after they’re done catering to Crosby? What is compelling in any of that?
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I mean you're just picking and choosing the parts of the press conferences you want to believe. If we take them all at face value, then it makes a lot more sense.
 
mbow30 said:
If that presser was an attempt to gain leverage then holy shit they’ve dodged a bullet and I totally get why we overpaid everybody.
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agreed, for sure. I'm not on the LOF train though that this was all a (spectacularly failed) negotiating ploy by the dubie-man.
 
-a GM who can't handle the heat built a team that couldn't handle the heat
-a GM who won a poll on easiest touch in a negotiation lost his position due to...mishandling his own contract negotiation

I dunno...in the end, it does kinda track.

But the thing is, even if it turns out we were saved from ourselves here, the guy who loved Dubas barely a week ago and was ready to re-ink him for term is still in charge of the Maple Leafs.

Brad Treliving is a pretty lukewarm option, honestly. That line of speculation makes me want to believe the CJ report that Shanahan called the core 4 and told them they're being kept. Because I'm not sure I trust that guy making huge franchise altering moves or to not give out big crippling term deals to non-superstars(which Dubas did not, unless you want to include Tavares)
 
It's all the prefacing about another job, even extraneous information out if Pittsburgh that screams tampering to me. Otherwise useless information.
 
Volcanologist said:
-a GM who can't handle the heat built a team that couldn't handle the heat
-a GM who won a poll on easiest touch in a negotiation lost his position due to...mishandling his own contract negotiation

I dunno...in the end, it does kinda track.

But the thing is, even if it turns out we were saved from ourselves here, the guy who loved Dubas barely a week ago and was ready to re-ink him for term is still in charge of the Maple Leafs.

Brad Treliving is a pretty lukewarm option, honestly. That line of speculation makes me want to believe the CJ report that Shanahan called the core 4 and told them they're being kept. Because I'm not sure I trust that guy making huge franchise altering moves or to not give out big crippling term deals to non-superstars(which Dubas did not, unless you want to include Tavares)
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When did you get so smart anyway?
 
I really hope Marner and Matthews don't think they'll get raises on their cap hits and only have to sign for 5 years.
 
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