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The Mother-fucking goddamn Off-season Thread

the thing about Coleman is the Leafs can’t afford that contract anyway. So that part isn’t important. But they do have to replace most of there above minimum depth.

and Treliving targeted players like Toffoli and Coleman in those roles, which would be a massive upgrade over the Kerf/Kampfs/Kroks of the world.

he’ll have to be more creative because of the cap space, but if toHose are the types of secondary players he targets that’s an upgrade on Dubas.
 
You’re avoiding the question, would you want Coleman 32-35 for $4.9m on this current Leaf’s team….if they handed him to us for free?

Would you want Tavares at $11m for ages 33-34 if they handed him to us for free?
 
I think good players help improve teams.

no shit. as does everyone.
Crazy concept maybe. But it's my unique belief.

if he would single handedly swing losing a series from 4-1, to winning it…he’s worth $10m per.

…and you guys claim I’m the one being fanciful. lol. While you’re writing fan fiction for Treliving signings, saving our season by himself. 😆
 
the thing about Coleman is the Leafs can’t afford that contract anyway. So that part isn’t important. But they do have to replace most of there above minimum depth.

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and Treliving targeted players like Toffoli and Coleman in those roles, which would be a massive upgrade over the Kerf/Kampfs/Kroks of the world.

if he could pull off another Toffoli deal, that’d be great.
he’ll have to be more creative because of the cap space, but if toHose are the types of secondary players he targets that’s an upgrade on Dubas.

…he’d have to get guys cheaper than Coleman I think.…or more specifically He’d need to do the Tampa version of acquiring him.
 
If only we'd just signed Tavares to a one year deal and got him to agree that each year for the next 6 years after that, we'd revisit and tell him how much we thought he should be paid and then just sign him to another one year deal? And Leafs get the right to terminate at any time. Then we wouldn't be in this mess of having a 35+ goal scorer going into year 6 of his contract poised to put up yet another 80 point season out of the 2C spot.

I wonder if Matty will go for something like that next month.
 
im not sure what i am more disappointed in, the leafs actually hiring the worst realistic candidate out of the guys rumoured or the lengths people are going to try and twist this into being a good hire. we took a giant step back as an organization and brought in the worst possible guy to try and resign our best players. its going to be an exhausting summer
 
im not sure what i am more disappointed in, the leafs actually hiring the worst realistic candidate out of the guys rumoured or the lengths people are going to try and twist this into being a good hire. we took a giant step back as an organization and brought in the worst possible guy to try and resign our best players. its going to be an exhausting summer
I don't think he's the worse. Not the best though.
 
im not sure what i am more disappointed in, the leafs actually hiring the worst realistic candidate out of the guys rumoured or the lengths people are going to try and twist this into being a good hire. we took a giant step back as an organization and brought in the worst possible guy to try and resign our best players. its going to be an exhausting summer
Don't you think it's worth pausing on judgment to see if maybe running the Leafs with their leverage would yield different results than having to resign guys in Calgary?
 
the thing about Coleman is the Leafs can’t afford that contract anyway. So that part isn’t important. But they do have to replace most of there above minimum depth.

and Treliving targeted players like Toffoli and Coleman in those roles, which would be a massive upgrade over the Kerf/Kampfs/Kroks of the world.

he’ll have to be more creative because of the cap space, but if toHose are the types of secondary players he targets that’s an upgrade on Dubas.
Nah, they can afford a Coleman or a toffoli. Just one but it’s doable.
 
Dubas in retrospect:

Knew to add key players:

1. Tavares
2. Brodie
3. Muzzin

4. Didn't sign any crusher deals to secondary or tertiary players.

And to be fair, all of those are big things that are huge reasons why we stayed so good the whole time. In his time here Lou didn't add any key players other than arguably Freddy and he was just a fucking goalie. And Lou signed a bunch of bad contracts to boot.

Unfortunately, so much time has already gone by that those 3 key adds by Dubas are all 33-34 and diminished, and none of them were bargains in the first place.

Dubas also did manage to find some nice UFA bargains like Bunting and Mikheyev and Barabanov but those came at such a cost in other bad marginal UFA that ended up blocking and forcing out other players that i'm not sure where the ledger balances out there.
 
Dubas in retrospect:

Knew to add key players:

1. Tavares
2. Brodie
3. Muzzin

4. Didn't sign any crusher deals to secondary or tertiary players.

And to be fair, all of those are big things that are huge reasons why we stayed so good the whole time. In his time here Lou didn't add any key players other than arguably Freddy. And Lou signed a bunch of bad contracts to boot.

Unfortunately, so much time has already gone by that those 3 key adds by Dubas are all 33-34 and diminished, and none of them were bargains in the first place.

Dubas also did manage to find some nice UFA bargains like Bunting and Mikheyev and Barabanov but those came at such a cost in other bad marginal UFA that ended up blocking and forcing out other players that i'm not sure where the ledger balances out there.

the other big knock is trading Kadri and Sandin for nothing and no reason.
 
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