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The Mother-fucking goddamn Off-season Thread

Still thinking about Treliving trading for Jarnkrok as his 3C heading into the playoffs a season ago. Jarnkrok didnt produce much in that role but i think he was pretty solid overall in solid usage.

Also Holmberg is a guy you want to see get a chance.

Domi is there too if need be.

And even Lafferty has played lots of center too.
 
Dubas has brought in a goalie on a boat anchor contract each of the past three seasons (Mrazek, Murray, Jarry). For that reason alone, I’m glad he’s gone.
 


"We are excited to add Derek to our hockey operations department," said Maple Leafs General Manager Brad Treliving. "I feel Derek is one of the premier talent evaluators in our game. He is a three-time Stanley Cup champion and will play a big role as we continue our goal of building a championship team."

Clancey, 54, arrives in Toronto after spending last season with the Vancouver Canucks as an Assistant General Manager, overseeing the Canucks pro and amateur scouting efforts.

Clancey, who worked with the Calgary Flames as a pro scout in the 2021-22 season, played a pivotal role in player personnel decisions for 14 seasons with the Pittsburgh Penguins, contributing to their three Stanley Cup victories. During his time with Pittsburgh, Clancey served as a pro scout for three seasons (2007-08 to 2009-10), director of pro scouting for nine seasons (2010-11 to 2018-19), and director of player personnel for two seasons (2019-20 to 2020-21).
 
hockeylover said:


"We are excited to add Derek to our hockey operations department," said Maple Leafs General Manager Brad Treliving. "I feel Derek is one of the premier talent evaluators in our game. He is a three-time Stanley Cup champion and will play a big role as we continue our goal of building a championship team."

Clancey, 54, arrives in Toronto after spending last season with the Vancouver Canucks as an Assistant General Manager, overseeing the Canucks pro and amateur scouting efforts.

Clancey, who worked with the Calgary Flames as a pro scout in the 2021-22 season, played a pivotal role in player personnel decisions for 14 seasons with the Pittsburgh Penguins, contributing to their three Stanley Cup victories. During his time with Pittsburgh, Clancey served as a pro scout for three seasons (2007-08 to 2009-10), director of pro scouting for nine seasons (2010-11 to 2018-19), and director of player personnel for two seasons (2019-20 to 2020-21).
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bye bye Wes Clark.
 
I still think it’ll be a trade or buyout with Murray. This is a guy who got himself healthy and ready to go before the end of the Leafs’ playoff run.

If he was ready to call it quits on his NHL career, not sure why he’d have bothered.
 
LeafGm said:
This is a guy who got himself healthy
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No

I keep trying to tell you, he's done. Being "cleared to play" for a guy with his conkie issue is possible, but when he sneezes and gets a headache during his 1st game back and subsequently misses 6 weeks, all it tells us is that the way the NHL clears concussed players is fucked.

Here's the NHL guidelines for return to play from a concussion:

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When he returns from his umpteenth conkie and he can ride a bike, do a few drills and handle getting bumped by a coach in a net front drill without getting dizzy, he's cleared to play. That isn't healthy or durable, or safe. It's just cleared to play. There's also a ton of self assessment by the player baked into the medical side of it.

Doc: Any headaches?
Matt: No
Doc: Dizziness?
Matt: No
Doc: Blurred vision
Matt: No
Doc: Okay great, let me know if any of that changes.

Magically, he's hurt a week later after a stiff breeze hit him in the head.

But that's the way the process works when the team might need you to play. When the team doesn't want you to play, the Doctors ask different questions.
 
I'd rather the LTIR option than giving up anything to move him, and definitely more than buying him out. One year and gone.

Unless some dumb team wants him for free.
 
MindzEye said:
No

I keep trying to tell you, he's done. Being "cleared to play" for a guy with his conkie issue is possible, but when he sneezes and gets a headache during his 1st game back and subsequently misses 6 weeks, all it tells us is that the way the NHL clears concussed players is fucked.

Here's the NHL guidelines for return to play from a concussion:

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When he returns from his umpteenth conkie and he can ride a bike, do a few drills and handle getting bumped by a coach in a net front drill without getting dizzy, he's cleared to play. That isn't healthy or durable, or safe. It's just cleared to play. There's also a ton of self assessment by the player baked into the medical side of it.

Doc: Any headaches?
Matt: No
Doc: Dizziness?
Matt: No
Doc: Blurred vision
Matt: No
Doc: Okay great, let me know if any of that changes.

Magically, he's hurt a week later after a stiff breeze hit him in the head.

But that's the way the process works when the team might need you to play. When the team doesn't want you to play, the Doctors ask different questions.
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We’ve been back and forth on this a number of times, and all that’s left really is to see how it plays out in reality.

I just don’t believe that Murray is ready or willing to wrap up his NHL career or take a one-year hiatus from playing for the sake of the Leafs 2023/24 cap situation.

And if that’s true, I also just don’t believe that the Leafs will rustle up a Dr. Nick Riviera from somewhere that’ll tell Murray (who, again, finished the season as officially fit and healthy to play as far as the NHL is concerned) that he’s not healthy enough to play when Murray believes the contrary.

Or that they’d even be able to pull that off if Murray’s determined enough to continue his career and files a grievance or seeks a second medical opinion.

Anyway, we’ll find out who’s right either in the next week or so if it’s a buyout, or by the start of the season at the latest if it’s a trade or LTIR.
 
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$2.4m lets them carry a 22 man roster if they send down lafferty.

$3.4m is the max they can afford if they want to carry a 21 man roster.

Over $3.4 and they have to move Timmins most likely and run a 20 man roster.
 
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