The Mother-fucking goddamn Off-season Thread

[Preston]

3P before a long weekend is a great time to bury bad news

Counterpoint: it's gonna be a major discussion point for a lot of families/friends that get together this weekend!

 

[CH1]

Watching this again... Yeah Dubas wasn't a hockey bro at all. This market broke him. And the way he spoke about Keefe as a progressive coach that 100% bought into his vision is hilarious in hindsight.

And his rant about defensmen that "keep it simple" largely being shit was a good one too, considering the guys he acquired in his latter days. Fuck me.

But what about his pizza slice reviews?

 

[Preston]

But what about his pizza slice reviews?

GOOD UNDERCARRIAGE, LIGHT.

 

[hockeylover]

Counterpoint: it's gonna be a major discussion point for a lot of families/friends that get together this weekend!

spoiler alert: your uncle wants mark hunter and nylander traded.

 

[LeafOfFaith]

There's a shocking amount of money in sports executive jobs compared to the corporate world outside of the tippy top of finance and fortune 500 companies.

I mentioned this when there was all the hand wringing about Masai having all of these options to go and run an NGO and do all sorts of political lobbying and shit. Average CEO pay in the US is about 850K....average CEO of a non profit is like 200K. Nobody is leaving their 5-10 million dollar a year job for that.

Pridham makes 925K as the assistant GM ffs. The guy with the abacus that doesn't make actual hockey decisions and just makes the numbers work is paid more than the average CEO.

Even with his crazy resume, Tulsky never made hockey money (even Carolina hockey money) before moving to hockey.

I didn't know their salaries were known. I've never known how much Dubas made - was it public?

 

[MindzEye]

3P before a long weekend is a great time to bury bad news

Yeah, this is some pro exec level shit.

"we've hired Carlton the Bear as our new GM and under your chairs is a dossier of information on a massive organizational wide rape scandal. Enjoy your long weekend!!"

 

[CTheBigPicture]

From human perspective I feel for Kyle.

It is hard for me to imagine another person landing an absolute dream job. Chris Hadfield or someone like that maybe.

As Preston mentioned he sounded completely broken. I don't think he put up much fight to keep this role. For his sake I hope he doesn't come to regret it after a summer break. He won't have another job like this ever.

 

[MindzEye]

I didn't know their salaries were known. I've never known how much Dubas made - was it public?

Dunno, never looked. Was easily in the millions though.

 

[LeafOfFaith]

Dunno, never looked. Was easily in the millions though.

You looked up Pridham and not Dubas?

 

[MindzEye]

You looked up Pridham and not Dubas?

Correct

 

[hockeylover]

Holland makes 5 million per year.

THN suggested GM salaries start at 1-1.5m and go up from there.

 

[hockeylover]

yep.

 

[MindzEye]

Have we fired Keefe yet? I haven't seen anything official.

 

[Bleedsblue&white]

Watch the cap go up for the next GM...poor Kyle, probably killed him more than anything else.

 

[hockeylover]

Have we fired Keefe yet? I haven't seen anything official.

nope.

 

[LeafOfFaith]

Have we fired Keefe yet? I haven't seen anything official.

Probably will be mentioned at the presser.

Assuming there is a presser today, between say 2 and 4 pm.

 

[Preston]

Have we fired Keefe yet? I haven't seen anything official.

They'll let the new GM fire him I guess. Media better ask the right questions to Shanny. They're usually shit so I'm not hopeful.

 

[CH1]

From human perspective I feel for Kyle.

He won't have another job like this ever.

That’s a good point. He’ll have to land in another big market because it’ll be hard for him to find another org to fund his best in class spending on scoutining, analytics, performance science, etc

 

[LeafOfFaith]

So do Dubie, Keefe, Willy, Tavares, and Marner all end up at the finals in the next year or two with their new teams?

You just know it's coming. #leafs

 

[MindzEye]

Watch the cap go up for the next GM...poor Kyle, probably killed him more than anything else.

It didn't help, but he chose to spend his extra cap on Kerfoot, Holl, Jarnkrok, & Murray. That's 11 million bucks to work with.

He received a very, very poor playoff ROI for that ~15% of his cap spend.