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TML? More like FML, amirite? Yet Another Off Season Thread

I just don't buy into these stats to evaluate a player's performance.

What is this one guy doing that is so directly influencing what the other 9 guys are doing? Is he somehow stifling 5 players' shot attempts all by his lonesome? I could see this stat being interesting to see just how much a guy like McDavid or Matthews might control play, but that's because they really are almost singlehandedly controlling play when they're on the ice usually. And there's only a handful of guys that it would even matter for.
 
I'd be happy with Poolparty if we could snag him on the cheap.

Wonder what a guy like Trochek commands. A 2C that would let Tavares slide to the wing would be great too.
 
Thats what sample size is for though.

If over the course of 100's of minutes of ice time and with a bunch of different linemates a player is helping the puck go in the right direction, to the right areas of ice, thats him influencing that even if its hard to understand how he does it.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
I just don't buy into these stats to evaluate a player's performance.

What is this one guy doing that is so directly influencing what the other 9 guys are doing? Is he somehow stifling 5 players' shot attempts all by his lonesome? I could see this stat being interesting to see just how much a guy like McDavid or Matthews might control play, but that's because they really are almost singlehandedly controlling play when they're on the ice usually. And there's only a handful of guys that it would even matter for.
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bring back +/-

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MindzEye said:
Thats what sample size is for though.

If over the course of 100's of minutes of ice time and with a bunch of different linemates a player is helping the puck go in the right direction, to the right areas of ice, thats him influencing that even if its hard to understand how he does it.
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Also thats what rel # is for. All these models isolate impact.
 
that stat lists "against Colorado", so we are talking about hundreds of seconds of sample size here.

(i do like Puljujarvi though)
 
QOT and QOC do matter too! But that's why you use all the data and that's why sometimes analysis of the data can be tricky when certain things contradict each other, especially in cases like Puljujarvi's.
 
axlsalinger said:
that stat lists "against Colorado", so we are talking about hundreds of seconds of sample size here.

(i do like Puljujarvi though)
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Zach Laing has a whole thread on him today with totals spanning this season and beyond. They suggest he has a solid impact on his linemates both offensively and defensively

If the Oilers are prepared to walk or deal him on the cheap Im down.
 
zeke said:
Ah so lebrun says they're asking for $3.5m, which makes perfect sense.

Whoever was floating that silly $5m rumor was doing their usual leafs trolling.

But yeah - the decision is basically between keeping mikky or kerf. I'm not sure which is more valuable given that kerf can play C. Then again we could also get something in a trade for kerf too.
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Or the decision is neither, get some for kerfoot and remake the 3rd line.
 
zeke said:
Ah so lebrun says they're asking for $3.5m, which makes perfect sense.

Whoever was floating that silly $5m rumor was doing their usual leafs trolling.

But yeah - the decision is basically between keeping mikky or kerf. I'm not sure which is more valuable given that kerf can play C. Then again we could also get something in a trade for kerf too.
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Mikky >>> Kerf. Besides only 1 year left of Kerf anyway while we’d be getting mikky for term. No brainer.
 
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