2023 Draft and UFA Thread

[GEEMAN]

Gotta throw this out there:

Scenario: Habs aren’t able to move up, 5OA pick is there’s w Michkov available and if rumors are accurate that HuGo have no interest in drafting MM:

Would you make the deal if NYR are willing to offer Lafreniere + Kaako for 5OA?

NNNNNNNNN OOOOOOOOOOOOO

You might end up with 2 50 point players not good enough

If they throw in Kande , now its a conversation

 

[GEEMAN]

I would be perfectly fine with Leonard at 10-12. At 5, though? Nope. No thanks.

I'm on team trade down. Call up Detroit. 5 & 31 for 9, 17 & 43.

Not bad

 

[WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou]

Gotta throw this out there:

Scenario: Habs aren’t able to move up, 5OA pick is there’s w Michkov available and if rumors are accurate that HuGo have no interest in drafting MM:

Would you make the deal if NYR are willing to offer Lafreniere + Kaako for 5OA?

If he's dead set against Michkov then sure I might do that. You have to think that Gorton knows these two players better than most.

 

[MON4NHLTOR4MLB]

Gotta throw this out there:

Scenario: Habs aren’t able to move up, 5OA pick is there’s w Michkov available and if rumors are accurate that HuGo have no interest in drafting MM:

Would you make the deal if NYR are willing to offer Lafreniere + Kaako for 5OA?

Here we go again with Lafreniere or PLD

 

[Habsy]

Gotta throw this out there:

Scenario: Habs aren’t able to move up, 5OA pick is there’s w Michkov available and if rumors are accurate that HuGo have no interest in drafting MM:

Would you make the deal if NYR are willing to offer Lafreniere + Kaako for 5OA?

K'Andre Miller and Lafreniere you mean

 

[Habspatrol]

Some dude on Montreal Hockey Now had one a week ago based on historical averages

Suggested it should be no more than a third or second rounder to move up 3 spots which is way too low

But I agree adding 31 plus a Harris + is more than enough

Well shit... Let's trade a 2nd AND a 3rd to move up 4 spots.

 

[Habsy]

Well shit... Let's trade a 2nd AND a 3rd to move up 4 spots.

It's a flawed model. Completely different in top 5.

 

[Sal_Butera]

K'Andre Miller and Lafreniere you mean

 

[GrandWazoo]

It's a flawed model. Completely different in top 5.

Even historically in the top 5 it hasn’t been that costly.

2004: 4th OA for 8OA + 59th
2008: 5th vs 7th + 2nd & 3rd
2003: 1OA + 73rd vs 3OA + 55th

 

[Habsy]

Hasn't been done in 15 years because GMs got burned on those.

 

[Sal_Butera]

 

[lecoqsportif]

Who wrote that hit piece, the Capitals marketing people?

Good grief.

 

[Sal_Butera]

 

[east coast]

I still kind of like Leonard over Smith at #5, assuming Bedard, Fantilli,Carlsson,Michkov gone. But the fact McCagg does too does not inspire my confidence in saying that. I'd also pick Sandin-Pellikka over Smith. Or trade the bloody pick. I'm not gung-ho on the upside of either of the two (Leonard,Smith), based on my limited knowledge of them.

 

[CH1]

We forumicers don’t need to get it right but Hughes has to fucking nail #5

ie If he passes on Michkov and he turns into a phenom, he’ll be dodging questions until the grave.

 

[Sal_Butera]

We forumicers don’t need to get it right but Hughes has to fucking nail #5

ie If he passes on Michkov and he turns into a phenom, he’ll be dodging questions until the grave.

Likewise if he picks Michkov and he turns into a turd.

This is looking like 2003 draft redo..

 

[CH1]

Likewise if he picks Michkov and he turns into a turd.

This is looking like 2003 draft redo..

only if he passes on a star — if Leonard turns into a 55 point pest, I am not going to sweat it

 

[Sal_Butera]

only if he passes on a star — if Leonard turns into a 55 point pest, I am not going to sweat it

AKos was supposed to be a star that wasn’t passed on, but quickly became a turd. There will inevitably be players picked mid / late 1st who turn out way better than draft day projections including stars

 

[CH1]

AKos was supposed to be a star that wasn’t passed on, but quickly became a turd.

Nope
AKos was never talked about in that Michkov manner. The guy had one impressive tourney

 

[east coast]

We forumicers don’t need to get it right but Hughes has to fucking nail #5

ie If he passes on Michkov and he turns into a phenom, he’ll be dodging questions until the grave.

I'll always remember fondly that pretty much all of us were calling to draft Caufield that year when he was available, and were holding our breath, afraid they would screw it up with taking someone else. We can live off that one for awhile. It was a group thing.