2023 Draft and UFA Thread

[WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou]

only if he passes on a star — if Leonard turns into a 55 point pest, I am not going to sweat it

That's all I see Leonard being; a good but not great player. Another Gallagher. Probably not even as good as pre-knee injury Koivu. Michkov could be generational. If he's there at 5 you take a chance on greatness, you don't settle for "safe". That's essentially what the Habs did last year when they passed on the safe pick with Wright and took the higher ceiling of Slafkovsky

 

[Sal_Butera]

10 Bold Predictions for the 2023 NHL Draft - The Hockey Writers Latest News, Analysis & More

Now that it is less than two weeks away, I wanted to take this chance to make a few predictions about the 2023 NHL Entry Draft. While there’s no question…

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[GEEMAN]

AKos was supposed to be a star that wasn’t passed on, but quickly became a turd. There will inevitably be players picked mid / late 1st who turn out way better than draft day projections including stars

AK was a total fuck up and reach at 9

Draft had 10-20 top talents and Habs fucked up royally , set them back years

 

[Rolex]

The Habs don't need a scouting dept. if they're just going to do that. HuGo can just buy draft guides and go off their lists for the consensus picks.

Exactly

 

[CH1]

The Habs don't need a scouting dept. if they're just going to do that. HuGo can just buy draft guides and go off their lists for the consensus picks.

those draft guides would easily have outperformed Timmins for two decades

hope Hugo can reverse that

 

[GGpX]

I still kind of like Leonard over Smith at #5, assuming Bedard, Fantilli,Carlsson,Michkov gone. But the fact McCagg does too does not inspire my confidence in saying that. I'd also pick Sandin-Pellikka over Smith. Or trade the bloody pick. I'm not gung-ho on the upside of either of the two (Leonard,Smith), based on my limited knowledge of them.

I was listening to Simon Boisvert on the draft podcast and he made a good point about Sandin-Pelikka & players like that. He had RSP up & down his list, but it made him think of other players like him that he had high in his list but never really became what he thought they'd be once they arrived in North America.

To him, Sandin-Pelikka, Erik Brunstrom, Rasmus Sandin, Nils Lundkvist, they're one and the same. They're third pairing, offensive puck moving d-men that need to be sheltered. All of them showed flashes of skill, but when they actually started playing in the NHL, their assets weren't able to fully translate.

It's good food for thought.

 

[GGpX]

those draft guides would easily have outperformed Timmins for two decades

hope Hugo can reverse that

The SBNation Canucks site actually did that. Dave Nonis Vs Potato. The potato would only select the highest scoring forward in the CHL available. No d-men or goalies, no other leagues. In every year, the Potato did a much better job than Nonis.

 

[GGpX]

We think the Vancouver Canucks may have a scouting problem(!!!!)

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[GEEMAN]

I was listening to Simon Boisvert on the draft podcast and he made a good point about Sandin-Pelikka & players like that. He had RSP up & down his list, but it made him think of other players like him that he had high in his list but never really became what he thought they'd be once they arrived in North America.

To him, Sandin-Pelikka, Erik Brunstrom, Rasmus Sandin, Nils Lundkvist, they're one and the same. They're third pairing, offensive puck moving d-men that need to be sheltered. All of them showed flashes of skill, but when they actually started playing in the NHL, their assets weren't able to fully translate.

It's good food for thought.

Plus SP is small , hard pass

 

[GrandWazoo]

Other scouts were also saying that this is the wrong draft to pick a defenseman in the top 10, which we’re famous to go against the grain but I have faith in the regime. Still feel like Reinbacher could be a fit though depending on his upside (I never seen him play and I see him ranked all over the place)

 

[Krustchev]

Plus SP is small , hard pass

And . . . Craig Button is an f’ing idiot.

 

[GEEMAN]

And . . . Craig Button is an f’ing idiot.

Yup

 

[east coast]

I was listening to Simon Boisvert on the draft podcast and he made a good point about Sandin-Pelikka & players like that. He had RSP up & down his list, but it made him think of other players like him that he had high in his list but never really became what he thought they'd be once they arrived in North America.

To him, Sandin-Pelikka, Erik Brunstrom, Rasmus Sandin, Nils Lundkvist, they're one and the same. They're third pairing, offensive puck moving d-men that need to be sheltered. All of them showed flashes of skill, but when they actually started playing in the NHL, their assets weren't able to fully translate.

It's good food for thought.

There certainly is merit in that. For a few years now there has been kind of a love affair with these kind of defencemen, where size may not matter as much as mobility. The kind of questions Boisvert illustrates above may now represent a kind of balancing out of that view. The type of bigger defence Vegas, and St. Louis before them, put out there may be adding fuel to that.

But the risk that Sandin-Pelikka may be of the same ilk as those listed above may not be greater than the risk of Smith and perhaps Leonard too not becoming all that much either. There will continue to be a need for mobile puck moving defenceman. like Torrey Krug, I prefer Sandin-Pelikka over the other two, maybe simply because I was impressed with him in the World Juniors.

 

[Habsy]

He's getting Fantilli

 

[Krustchev]

There certainly is merit in that. For a few years now there has been kind of a love affair with these kind of defencemen, where size may not matter as much as mobiity. The kind of questions Boisvert illustrates above may now represent a kind of balancing out of that view. The type of bigger defence Vegas, and St. Louis before them, put out there may be adding fuel to that.

But the risk that Sandin-Pelikka may be of the same ilk as those listed above may not be greater than the risk of Smith and perhaps Leonard too not becoming all that much either. There will continue to be a need for mobile puck moving defenceman. like Torrey Krug, I prefer Sandin-Pelikka over the other two, maybe simply because I was impressed with him in the World Juniors.

Yeah, let’s draft a Tory Krug type player at 5OA.

 

[CH1]

He's getting Fantilli

I see you switched to a strain with more THC

 

[CH1]

my bud is telling me Hugo is trading down and grabbing Dvorský

 

[GGpX]

There certainly is merit in that. For a few years now there has been kind of a love affair with these kind of defencemen, where size may not matter as much as mobiity. The kind of questions Boisvert illustrates above may now represent a kind of balancing out of that view. The type of bigger defence Vegas, and St. Louis before them, put out there may be adding fuel to that.

But the risk that Sandin-Pelikka may be of the same ilk as those listed above may not be greater than the risk of Smith and perhaps Leonard too not becoming all that much either. There will continue to be a need for mobile puck moving defenceman. like Torrey Krug, I prefer Sandin-Pelikka over the other two, maybe simply because I was impressed with him in the World Juniors.

Despite popular thought, the NHL is littered with defensemen with size. Those that aren't big need to be exceptionally good with the puck to be in the top-4. If they aren't, they'll always struggle to be a regular in the NHL.

I really wish RSP played in North America instead of Sweden. It would give us such a better idea about what his real potential is.

 

[Habsy]

my bud is telling me Hugo is trading down and grabbing Dvorský

 

[GGpX]

I'm on team trade down as well, just not sure Dvorsky would be my pick if we did.