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2024-25 Canes Miscellaneous Thread
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Yeah. The Wolves play 4 games before the next Canes game on 2/22. They’re at Rockford next Friday, home for Cleveland on Saturday and Sunday and home for Milwaukee on 2/20.
Brindy said it wasn't super serious but suggested that reporters would have to ask Rantanen about his status for 4 Nations. I suspect Carolina went ahead and let him go home once he wasn't going to be cleared to play on Saturday.
LaBrun said that Rantanen is in Montreal, so he’s playing.
Or at least he's giving it a shot. We'll see. Didn't sound like the Canes were all that concerned either way, so it probably isn't anything too risky.
If anyone was going to the Canes Gala on Thursday, it’s been postponed until March 12 due to the threat of inclement weather.
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polarbare
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postponed due to being scheduled while the US is playing Canada because someone screwed up the schedule.If anyone was going to the Canes Gala on Thursday, it’s been postponed until March 12 due to the threat of inclement weather.
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Tyson Jost has been activated off injured reserve ahead of the first team practice on Thursday. He is expected to return to the lineup for Saturday's game in Toronto. As a result, Juha Jaaska was reassigned to Chicago.
Also, Riley Stillman has been recalled from the Wolves again, presumably as a placeholder until Slavin returns from the 4 Nations.
Also, Riley Stillman has been recalled from the Wolves again, presumably as a placeholder until Slavin returns from the 4 Nations.
cmaleski2
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Not a lot of extra practice time before we are @Toronto Saturday night. Saturday also marks just 14 days from the trade deadline.
In the days immediately after the trade for Rantanen I would have given the Canes electing to flip Rantanen before the deadline maybe a 20% chance. I'm calling it 50-50 now. And that has nothing to do with the fact that Rantanen hasn't stepped right in and put up a point a game. He's been pretty unlucky.
I have no idea what is true and what is made up of course, but the Canes really need to figure out if Rantanen is signing here or not. To me it's pretty risky business to just call him another superstar rental and watch him walk in the offseason. We will have massive amounts of cap room to play with for next season if Rantanen doesn't sign, but there are not a lot of difference maker UFAs out there to spend all that cap space on. What are we going to do, sign Mitch Marner for $14 million per? Sure we can make trade for talent if Rantanen signs elsewhere, but we already played the Necas trade chip.
This is going to be an interesting next 2 weeks as we come off the 4 Nations event. There will almost certainly be non-stop chatter about what happens with Mikko Rantanen right up to the point that he either signs with the Canes or is traded by the Canes before the March 7th deadline.
In the days immediately after the trade for Rantanen I would have given the Canes electing to flip Rantanen before the deadline maybe a 20% chance. I'm calling it 50-50 now. And that has nothing to do with the fact that Rantanen hasn't stepped right in and put up a point a game. He's been pretty unlucky.
I have no idea what is true and what is made up of course, but the Canes really need to figure out if Rantanen is signing here or not. To me it's pretty risky business to just call him another superstar rental and watch him walk in the offseason. We will have massive amounts of cap room to play with for next season if Rantanen doesn't sign, but there are not a lot of difference maker UFAs out there to spend all that cap space on. What are we going to do, sign Mitch Marner for $14 million per? Sure we can make trade for talent if Rantanen signs elsewhere, but we already played the Necas trade chip.
This is going to be an interesting next 2 weeks as we come off the 4 Nations event. There will almost certainly be non-stop chatter about what happens with Mikko Rantanen right up to the point that he either signs with the Canes or is traded by the Canes before the March 7th deadline.
I'm interested why you'd rate that as 50/50 if it has nothing to do with Rantanen's play and you haven't really heard anything about contract talks. At that point all you've got is a couple of media chuds who are stirring this pot for reasons of their own. If you thought there was a 20% before the break, there's still a 20% chance because not a single thing has changed in the meantime.
Oh, also ... Tulsky basically addressed this when the trade went through, without painting himself in a corner. Carolina WOULD flip Rantanen if it made the team better, otherwise they're going to see the extra cap space as a positive instead of a negative. Which is fine.
Oh, also ... Tulsky basically addressed this when the trade went through, without painting himself in a corner. Carolina WOULD flip Rantanen if it made the team better, otherwise they're going to see the extra cap space as a positive instead of a negative. Which is fine.
cmaleski2
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2 weeks until the trade deadline. Tulsky stated multiple times that we 'learned things from the Guentzel experience'. No contract extension yet.
That is why I think there is an increasing chance that we trade him.
Trust the process, I know the drill, but we still don't have a 2nd line center. If Rantanen walks on us, this time we traded away a top 6 forward, a 3rd line +faceoff center, and 2nd and 4th round picks to acquire a 'better' top 6 forward, but just for part of the season. The assets we traded for Guentzel to me were all expendable lesser assets.
If we cannot work out a deal with Rantanen, NEXT season we will have both the 2nd line Center AND top 6 winger holes to fill with one of our top major trade chips gone.
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My takeaway from "we learned things from the Guentzel experience" is that they learned not to trust the player once it gets down to the last few weeks, because that was the context. They ended up trading his rights very late because Guentzel's agent strung them along hoping to beat their offer. But hey, what kind of GM says exactly what he's planning? So we're left to translate and I'm still dialing in my Tulsky-speak. I'm not ruling out the Canes flipping Rantanen, but I would be HIGHLY surprised if they take a loss on the deal ... which probably means they keep him.
And I get Canes fans being a little gun-shy after the Guentzel thing, but perspective is important. Losing Guentzel didn't sink the club and neither would losing Rantanen ... unless you assume that they won't put that cap space to use. There's exactly zero evidence to suggest that they wouldn't.
And I get Canes fans being a little gun-shy after the Guentzel thing, but perspective is important. Losing Guentzel didn't sink the club and neither would losing Rantanen ... unless you assume that they won't put that cap space to use. There's exactly zero evidence to suggest that they wouldn't.
I'm not so sure they don't keep Rantanen AND try to make a deadline deal for a No. 2 center before the deadline ... even if it's just a rental. Tulsky feels to me like he's in "all-in" mode, and he's still got a first round pick and a raft of credible prospects in his pocket.
cmaleski2
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True, but who? The top UFAs will be Rantanen and Marner (if he actually leaves the Leafs). Superstar forwards don't commonly get to market. The Canes have been able to trade for older players (ie Burns) or rentals (Guentzel or Rantanen). We haven't signed a big name UFA forward since...??? Alex Semin?
The Canes would be more likely to trade for what we need. What is concerning me there is that we are burning some of our better trade assets on rentals.