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2024-25 Canes Miscellaneous Thread

Who? Rantanen? You can't talk to a player on another team about signing them to a contract when they are already under contract with that other team. Tulsky would be breaking that rule if he had those conversations with Rantanen. Was he supposed to use ESP or somethign?

Well. Isn’t that what Dallas just did? They have an agreement at 12m on a player under contract with another team. What’s the difference?

Edit: nevermind. I need to dial down the pain meds
 
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Hall-Stankhoven-Roslovic
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Lots of ways to move those pieces around, but that is what we are going the rest of the season with unless we call up players from Chicago.

Barring some miraculous turnaround, that is not a Cup winning forward group.

Looking forward to 25-26, we are set up with a large amount of cap space and lots of picks to trade (if you want to try to be optimistic).
 
Which will put up as many points as the same lineup w/ Rantanen so it is what it is.

But next year and that free $30M is gonna look much improved I think
 
Svech-Aho-Blake
Hall-Stankhoven-Roslovic
Martinook-Staal-Jarvis
Robinson-KK-Jost

Lots of ways to move those pieces around, but that is what we are going the rest of the season with unless we call up players from Chicago.

Barring some miraculous turnaround, that is not a Cup winning forward group.

Looking forward to 25-26, we are set up with a large amount of cap space and lots of picks to trade (if you want to try to be optimistic).
When you look at the arms race in Florida, in Dallas etc I don’t think this team even with 96 was going far. Let’s call it a retool this summer with all that cap space and draft picks and maybe win a round of playoffs this spring vs Columbus…
 
When you look at the arms race in Florida, in Dallas etc I don’t think this team even with 96 was going far. Let’s call it a retool this summer with all that cap space and draft picks and maybe win a round of playoffs this spring vs Columbus…
Thank you for talking me off the ledge-this makes a lot of sense.
My questions going forward are is RBA's system really as hard for "superstars" to flourish so they don't want to play here (as claimed by many talking heads in X) and if so, how does the management address it? I trust this boards hockey knowledge a lot more than X-please give me some guidance.
 
Already heard several "experts" write the Canes right out of the playoffs already. Tulsky really did drop the ball. Days like this make you miss Waddell. Tulsky should have been selling today. This team took two steps back.
 
Thank you for talking me off the ledge-this makes a lot of sense.
My questions going forward are is RBA's system really as hard for "superstars" to flourish so they don't want to play here (as claimed by many talking heads in X) and if so, how does the management address it? I trust this boards hockey knowledge a lot more than X-please give me some guidance.
And also-am a firm believer we are better off w/o Rants as he really didn't want to be hwre
 
Thank you for talking me off the ledge-this makes a lot of sense.
My questions going forward are is RBA's system really as hard for "superstars" to flourish so they don't want to play here (as claimed by many talking heads in X) and if so, how does the management address it? I trust this boards hockey knowledge a lot more than X-please give me some guidance.
Players have to buy in to the system. They can flourish but they can’t just go do their own thing.

The “underlying numbers” and advanced stats and possession game that get talked about so much with the Canes looking great there is because Rod insists on everyone playing within the structure. That probably/definitely reduces goals and assists for elite offensive guys. But we don’t have those players that score tons but give up more. Players like Necas grew up being talented enough that thry were able to basically freestyle and be successful. They often don’t like playing within a structure that doesn’t just allow them to do whatever they want with someone else’s responsible for covering their butts.

That’s my take on it.
 
Well we definitely sacrifice some offense for attention to defense. Some high scoring guys don't really want to be asked to pay attention to defense.

Some players just flat out don't have any interest playing in a 'small market'.

There are clearly less endorsement opportunities for Canes players than in other markets.

Some players hate our organization. Lots of stigma about Dundon, fed by the media and many talking heads and agents apparently.

We haven't won the Cup in almost 20 years.

All that said, any player who is at the point of signing what will be their 'last big contract' is about to secure the bag. The Canes are willing to pay them big bucks, as much as they will get elsewhere. So this isn't about 'well my numbers won't be as good in Carolina' or at least it shouldn't be. Why would such a player care about their numbers if the Canes are giving them 8x a huge AAV? When you are at the end of that deal (and 37 years old in Rantanen's case), your next contract is going to be short and for smaller money. That you didn't put up 100 points because you were on the Canes is hardly going to matter at that point.
 
The "experts" are ripping Tulsky to shreds.

And I'd assume Dundon let Tulsky run things this week, but someone said they heard that Dundon was furious. At Tulsky? Rantanen? His agent? No clue. Probably a combo.
 
You have to be concerned with the size up front...Blake, Stankoven, even Aho...probably should have at least added someone like Marchment to at least balance the size and snarl...it's going to be tough sledding this year come playoff time in terms of the forward group left to some extent.
 
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