Fayettenamcanesfan
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Good. Now he can get 55 years!
2024-25 NHL Misc. Thread
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HeyKurtz
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Noteworthy that so far this season, the Lightning have had a game against the Hurricanes postponed due to a hurricane, and the Kings have had a home game against the Flames postponed by wildfires.
If someone postpones a game against New Jersey, we're all going to hell.
LJG
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I think it would have to be the Flames.
Punzil
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If they postpone a game against Seattle, we're gonna need Medusa's head and a pegasus.
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Super impressive goal in the PWHL two nights ago...
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Her first goal in Vancouver since the 2010 Olympic Gold Medal game.
The Flyers are getting a new arena, to be shared with the 76ers as the current Wells Fargo Center is. The Sixers originally wanted a new arena in the Center City area, but the new arena will be somewhere in the existing South Philly complex. The arena is expected to be completed by 2031 but could be accelerated.
Wells Fargo Center opened in 1996. It’s owned by Comcast Spectcor. The new arena will be a 50/50 joint venture between Comcast and Harris Blitzer Sports and Entertaiment, which owns the Sixers.
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Wells Fargo Center opened in 1996. It’s owned by Comcast Spectcor. The new arena will be a 50/50 joint venture between Comcast and Harris Blitzer Sports and Entertaiment, which owns the Sixers.
Harris Blitzer Sports & Entertainment and Comcast Spectacor Announce Joint Venture to Build World-Class Arena
Partnership Will Create New Home for Philadelphia 76ers and Philadelphia Flyers, and Venue for Top Touring Acts and Special Events, As Well As Revitalize Market East
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Fayettenamcanesfan
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The Flyers are getting a new arena, to be shared with the 76ers as the current Wells Fargo Center is. The Sixers originally wanted a new arena in the Center City area, but the new arena will be somewhere in the existing South Philly complex. The arena is expected to be completed by 2031 but could be accelerated.
Wells Fargo Center opened in 1996. It’s owned by Comcast Spectcor. The new arena will be a 50/50 joint venture between Comcast and Harris Blitzer Sports and Entertaiment, which owns the Sixers.
Harris Blitzer Sports & Entertainment and Comcast Spectacor Announce Joint Venture to Build World-Class Arena
Partnership Will Create New Home for Philadelphia 76ers and Philadelphia Flyers, and Venue for Top Touring Acts and Special Events, As Well As Revitalize Market East
I always liked how I could get off the train and be at all 3 stadiums. Glad they’re keeping them all together…. For now
Bonkers to think how short the lifespan of relatively modern areas is nowadays. Clubs with perfectly suitable structures are either replacing them or spending big money renovating them to provide more and more premium priced, value-added experiences. It's troubling to me that all of these concepts essentially mean less good seats, close to the playing surface at the expense of loge and club space because I really don't like seeing the in-person experience to shift so much away from the primary point of the thing ... watching the freaking game. I think this is a trend that will end up hurting live sports, and will be difficult to roll back.
Me, my college roommates and other friends of ours would meet in Philly to go to a Villanova basketball game at Wells Fargo Center. We always stayed in Center City near a subway stop to do exactly that. So much more convenient.
The site the Sixers originally proposed was in Center City, on top of Jefferson Station at 10th and Market.
at some point their approach of “keep making it more and more expensive and they’ll keep buying” crashes and that won’t be pretty.
If you can sell out at an average of $100 per seat you could make more $$$. You left some on the table. But it’s not like people will happily adjust their volume of consumption down. Lots of them chuck the whole thing and you lose them altogether. I guess it doesn’t matter if you have people willing and able to drop $3000 on a couple Taylor Swift tickets. That’s fine for T Money. If the demand wanes they can drop prices. But this is more like baking the high prices in. Hard to move back to a volume model.
If you can sell out at an average of $100 per seat you could make more $$$. You left some on the table. But it’s not like people will happily adjust their volume of consumption down. Lots of them chuck the whole thing and you lose them altogether. I guess it doesn’t matter if you have people willing and able to drop $3000 on a couple Taylor Swift tickets. That’s fine for T Money. If the demand wanes they can drop prices. But this is more like baking the high prices in. Hard to move back to a volume model.
There are volumes and volumes of data on how to maximize spending per person at sporting events and thus maximize revenue. Sadly, for indoor events with limited capacity (ie you can't just build more capacity to scale up beyond a certain point) and a large schedule inventory (basketball, hockey, etc) that data points firmly to maximizing revenue by finding ways to get paying customers to spend more time on site and to spend on things other than tickets ... which all have greater profit margins. And if you look at the consumer side, the fan who purchases season tickets but consumes very little onsite otherwise is not generating revenue like the fan who comes in every so often and makes a big night out of it. And owners are chasing maximum revenues, especially in hockey where you just can't count on TV revenue like you can in other sports.
I know this group doesn't want to hear any of that, but ... it's where the whole thing is heading. I've sat in on the focus groups and read the site surveys and the writing is on the wall in billboard sized fonts. Club space, loge areas with added service, event spaces, party decks, premium seating with premium service ... any and everything to get you to spend some extra cash on top of your seat, parking, your one beer/water/soda and the odd hotdog or pizza when start times dictate eating at the venue. This stuff is already happening in every new arena and has already happened in many renovated arenas. To tie it to our owner, it's the same thing they did with the Top Golf concept. Take some cheap but reliable activity and add better food, booze, gameplay and other bells and whistles and see if you can't get the average consumer to spend $100 instead of $25. Bowling is heading in the same direction as those fancy entertainment alleys are taking over the industry from the grubbier metal buildings hosting league nights 5 nights a week. They took Midnight Bowling and made it the norm and the hard core bowlers freaking hate it.
Is it smart over the long run to prioritize casual fans who are more willing to spend big over loyal fans who will commit but won't spend anything more than necessary to get in the building? I have no idea. I get the feeling that markets like LA and Toronto that have played this game for a longer time kind of indicate that it's sustainable if not ideal. But I also get the sense that it takes a firm foundation of die hards to truly build a fan base and that not every market has sufficient foundations of support to survive the shift to fully transient support.
I know this group doesn't want to hear any of that, but ... it's where the whole thing is heading. I've sat in on the focus groups and read the site surveys and the writing is on the wall in billboard sized fonts. Club space, loge areas with added service, event spaces, party decks, premium seating with premium service ... any and everything to get you to spend some extra cash on top of your seat, parking, your one beer/water/soda and the odd hotdog or pizza when start times dictate eating at the venue. This stuff is already happening in every new arena and has already happened in many renovated arenas. To tie it to our owner, it's the same thing they did with the Top Golf concept. Take some cheap but reliable activity and add better food, booze, gameplay and other bells and whistles and see if you can't get the average consumer to spend $100 instead of $25. Bowling is heading in the same direction as those fancy entertainment alleys are taking over the industry from the grubbier metal buildings hosting league nights 5 nights a week. They took Midnight Bowling and made it the norm and the hard core bowlers freaking hate it.
Is it smart over the long run to prioritize casual fans who are more willing to spend big over loyal fans who will commit but won't spend anything more than necessary to get in the building? I have no idea. I get the feeling that markets like LA and Toronto that have played this game for a longer time kind of indicate that it's sustainable if not ideal. But I also get the sense that it takes a firm foundation of die hards to truly build a fan base and that not every market has sufficient foundations of support to survive the shift to fully transient support.
By mutual consent, SKA St. Petersburg terminated Tony DeAngelo’s contract so he could return to the US for family reasons.
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ThinIce
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JB, I think you're entirely spot-on with this assessment. Yes, I'm the 20+ years fan who rarely buys any concessions, and that's not where the trend is heading. Eventually, even the seat & parking costs will approach a level that I will choose not to pay - and that's just the way it goes. For years, I used to buy two seats, then shared an extra seat, and for this season I buy only one.
Yeah ... I'm never going to be anybody's target consumer because I'm too freaking cheap. I don't pay arena prices for food unless I have to, I don't drink at sporting events, don't buy a ton of merch and don't bet on anything, ever. I'm a ticket and premium parking pass guy who buys one ballcap a season and a jersey every 4 or 5 years. Nobody's making any money on me. I get that. Eventually I'll be priced out of the STM game and be a fan who comes to the arena 4 or 5 times a year and otherwise watches on the tube. And that's fine.
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Paul Bissonette, Ryan Whitney, Mike Grinnell and Keith Yandle are part of the ownership group.Zawyer Sports and Entertainment was granted an ECHL expansion franchise to begin playing in the 2025-26 season. They’ll play at the Greensboro Coliseum. They’ll be the 3rd ECHL team that Zawyer owns outright, along with the Jacksonville Icemen and Savannah Ghost Pirates. They are also non owner operations consultants for the ECHL Tahoe Knight Monsters, which are part owned by Tim Tebow, who is also an investor in Zawyer. They also own the Charlotte Checkers, having taken majority ownership in July.
Official Site of The ECHL | ECHL approves Expansion Membership for Greensboro
The ECHL Board of Governors has approved an Expansion Membership for Greensboro, North Carolina, to begin play in the 2025-26 Season as the League's 30th team.echl.com
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