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2024-25 NHL Misc. Thread

Rempe would be the type to pull that same type of thing but then claim he was simply the bigger man landing on top of a smaller man…glad the NHL for a change decided to take something seriously and dole out a double digit suspension.
I mean, why not? Zedeno Chara is gonna land in the hall of fame one day and he trotted out the "I'm just so tall" story to justify every one of the 2500 or so cross checks he landed on a guy's face and/or neck.

And yes, 10 games is too few for trying to knock a guy out in the faceoff circle. Heck, I'd throw in an extra 10 for acting baffled that anyone dared to make the call.
 
The Athletic NHL player survey is out. The Canes are at or near the top of the list in 2 categories. Brind’Amour was 3rd behind Cooper and Mo for Coach you’d most like to play for other than your own. He got 8.49% of the votes, Cooper was 23.58%, Mo was 12.51%. The Canes were the runaway winner for worst visiting team facilities, with 65.71% of the votes. One player said, "It used to be Carolina, but then they upgraded. And somehow it's still Carolina." A canes player said, “Probably ours. This summer, they’re supposed to change it up a little bit. We’ve been telling them to put it off.”

 
Yeah, the arena's visiting team facilities have only been upgraded in the sense that they changed out the lockers and moved a wall to accommodate the new lockers. And that happened last year. Otherwise it's just been paint and floor coverings for 25+ years. It's not dressing in a tent in the parking lot bad, but it's bad.

Oh, and we haven't upgraded the refs' locker room in any serious way either. Which might be a part of why the Canes routinely get screwed by the refs at home. Only half joking on that one. There are some petty mofos in the world and officiating is a natural fit for them.
 
NHLPA has appealed Hartman’s suspension. No matter, he won’t be playing against the Canes tomorrow. The Wild claimed his childhood friend, Vinnie Hinostroza, off waivers from Nashville to replace him.
 
NHLPA has appealed Hartman’s suspension. No matter, he won’t be playing against the Canes tomorrow. The Wild claimed his childhood friend, Vinnie Hinostroza, off waivers from Nashville to replace him.
That always strikes me as odd. Isn’t the assault victim in this case also an NHLPA member? Seems like the NHLPA should be in charge of suspensions etc. Heck if the players union doesn’t care if players maim each other on the ice why should the league.
 
That always strikes me as odd. Isn’t the assault victim in this case also an NHLPA member? Seems like the NHLPA should be in charge of suspensions etc. Heck if the players union doesn’t care if players maim each other on the ice why should the league.
This happens in all major NA sports with unions. I can never reconcile it either....your union member did something that could have severely injured or even killed another. Who is representing that injured player when you appeal a suspension? At what point are you doing the rest of the union members a disservice by defending a repeat offender and getting him back on the ice quicker than he should be?
 
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That always strikes me as odd. Isn’t the assault victim in this case also an NHLPA member? Seems like the NHLPA should be in charge of suspensions etc. Heck if the players union doesn’t care if players maim each other on the ice why should the league.
To be fair, the player's appeal HAS to come through the PA. It's not like they're endorsing it or anything. It's just a structural thing, really.
 
To be fair, the player's appeal HAS to come through the PA. It's not like they're endorsing it or anything. It's just a structural thing, really.
They can choose not to appeal when a member is suspended for injuring another member. Maybe that will cut down on the douchebaggery from certain players.
 
They can choose not to appeal when a member is suspended for injuring another member. Maybe that will cut down on the douchebaggery from certain players.
I mean, I guess they could bail on a request for appeal but once you start drawing that line then you really are picking and choosing which of your association members are fully represented and which aren't. That's not realistic, frankly. I understand why people want to see bad actors punished, but the appeal is built into the process to ensure that cooler heads prevail and that the terms of the CBA are honored. That's not a bad thing. We haven't seen a ton of suspensions reduced ... not for serious stuff anyway. It's all just part of the process that has been collectively bargained.
 
I mean, I guess they could bail on a request for appeal but once you start drawing that line then you really are picking and choosing which of your association members are fully represented and which aren't. That's not realistic, frankly. I understand why people want to see bad actors punished, but the appeal is built into the process to ensure that cooler heads prevail and that the terms of the CBA are honored. That's not a bad thing. We haven't seen a ton of suspensions reduced ... not for serious stuff anyway. It's all just part of the process that has been collectively bargained.
The last one I remember being reduced was Tom Wilson’s 20 game suspension in 2018 that was reduced to 14 games. There were 29 suspensions last season, 4 were appealed. All were less than 6 games, so Bettman had the final authority, they couldn’t be appealed to an arbitrator. The only suspensions for more than 6 games were Shane Pinto’s 41 game suspension and Valeri Nichushkin’s 26 game suspension. Neither appealed. The 29 suspensions includes Torts being suspended for 2 games and couldn’t be appealed.
 
Which means that the league hasn't been particularly arbitrary and capricious in handing out suspensions and that Hartman will likely either get no relief or a minor reduction. I see no harm in any of that being considered a second time.
 
Which means that the league hasn't been particularly arbitrary and capricious in handing out suspensions and that Hartman will likely either get no relief or a minor reduction. I see no harm in any of that being considered a second time.
It seems to me that the players association should be represented on the player safety committee of whatever it is. Then they pass down decisions on punishment as one. It seems silly that the PA can only get involved on behalf of the offender. They ought to be demanding harsher penalties for this kind of BS. Considering there is no cap relief given for suspensions it’s in the ownership’s best interest to keep suspensions short.

That’s not in the best interests of actual player safety. Somebody’s gonna get killed and they’ll all say it was not something foreseeable. That’s a load of …. I’m foreseeing it right now.
 
Who says the PA only gets involved on behalf of the offender? That's just the only place in this specific process that you SEE them getting involved. I get that people don't like the outcome and thus want to complain about the process, but that process was collectively bargained during the CBA talks and everybody has to live with it until there are new CBA talks. And by process I don't just mean the appeal process, I'm also talking about the fine and suspension schedule. Yeah, DPS sucks and yes, there are some real mouth breathers in the league. But all these huge suspensions and fines everybody wants (so long as it's not your guy on your team) HAVE to be agreed to in the CBA. You do NOT want this stupid league making up crap on the fly.
 
The Pens put Jesse Puljujarvi on unconditional waivers for purposes of contract termination.

 
Finland lost another dman, Rasmus Ristolainen is out. He’s being replaced by Ottawa’s Nikolas Matinpalo, who has played 18 NHL games this year. He played 5 seasons in Liiga before coming to the US.
 
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