BG
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Toughness or not - this is exactly the situation they were in before they signed Kane, and I'd bet that their numbers look very similar to when they were treading water before they signed him midseason last year.
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Toughness or not - this is exactly the situation they were in before they signed Kane, and I'd bet that their numbers look very similar to when they were treading water before they signed him midseason last year.
Habsy
Not playing around anymore.
Dude they may be the worst but they're not far from the rest.
Fine use Edmundson then, great numbers for a top D. I wish Holland would give us his first for that clown.
LeafOfFaith
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If Montreal gets to sell off some of its broken or useless junk for 1sts at the deadline again, I'll be annoyed.
MindzEye
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Was curious with a bit of data in whether the Habs #1 overall pick was the right one, or whether it was just a shit draft and they got the best of a bad bunch.
Name - League/PPG - Closest statistical comparables
1) Slafkovsky W - NHL .28ppg - Jess Puljujarvi, Radek Bonk, Owen Nolan, Tyler Seguin
2) Nemec D - AHL .46ppg - Moritz Seider, Liljegren, Sandin, Voynov
3) Cooley C- NCAA 1.29ppg - Phil Kessel, Larkin, Toews, Newhook
4) Wright C - NHL/AHL Incomplete due to being fucked about by his club
5) Cutter Gauthier W - NCAA 1.29ppg - Phil Kessel, Larkin, Toews, Newhook
6) Jiricek D - AHL 1.05ppg - Q Hughes, O Power, A Fox, J Johnson, R Hainsey
7) Korchinksi D - WHL 1.36ppg - O Zellweger, Bryan McCabe, J Morrissey
8) Kasper W - SHL .47ppg - Hallander, Lias Andersson, Soderstrom, Patrick Sundstrom, Zibanejad
9) Matt Savoie W - WHL 1.37ppg - Dillon Dube, B Gallagher, Fraser Minten (6 months older though)
10) Mintyukov D - OHL 1.46ppg - A DeAngelo, Wisniewski, PK Subban
After taking a quickl look, I think Jiricek was probably taken too low and should have been in the conversation for #1. 6'3 RHD with the offensive skills to do this shouldn't have been overlooked like this in a draft that lacked elite talent. No real misses so far in the top 10 though, even Kasper has some impact comparables that are reasonable best case scenarios for an 8th overall pick.
Slafkovsky is looking like a miss at the #1 though.
Name - League/PPG - Closest statistical comparables
1) Slafkovsky W - NHL .28ppg - Jess Puljujarvi, Radek Bonk, Owen Nolan, Tyler Seguin
2) Nemec D - AHL .46ppg - Moritz Seider, Liljegren, Sandin, Voynov
3) Cooley C- NCAA 1.29ppg - Phil Kessel, Larkin, Toews, Newhook
4) Wright C - NHL/AHL Incomplete due to being fucked about by his club
5) Cutter Gauthier W - NCAA 1.29ppg - Phil Kessel, Larkin, Toews, Newhook
6) Jiricek D - AHL 1.05ppg - Q Hughes, O Power, A Fox, J Johnson, R Hainsey
7) Korchinksi D - WHL 1.36ppg - O Zellweger, Bryan McCabe, J Morrissey
8) Kasper W - SHL .47ppg - Hallander, Lias Andersson, Soderstrom, Patrick Sundstrom, Zibanejad
9) Matt Savoie W - WHL 1.37ppg - Dillon Dube, B Gallagher, Fraser Minten (6 months older though)
10) Mintyukov D - OHL 1.46ppg - A DeAngelo, Wisniewski, PK Subban
After taking a quickl look, I think Jiricek was probably taken too low and should have been in the conversation for #1. 6'3 RHD with the offensive skills to do this shouldn't have been overlooked like this in a draft that lacked elite talent. No real misses so far in the top 10 though, even Kasper has some impact comparables that are reasonable best case scenarios for an 8th overall pick.
Slafkovsky is looking like a miss at the #1 though.
Habsy
Not playing around anymore.
If ppg is your sole metric then yes.
Until recently they saddled him with the worst plumbers on the team (pezzetta, Dadonov, Evans) and they're working on his defensive awareness and situational hockey.
The Habs real issue is coaching. They don't have it. They have nice guy Marty who played under Cooper but is not Cooper.
Burrows is throwing shit to the wall shift by shift and the ingame adjustments are so bad people will think it's an intentional tank.
This is a side show while HuGo work behind the scenes. Give the fans nice guy Marty (who had to apologize for his very rusty French) and a first overall to look at and keep buying beers and condos, don't look over here.
Slafkovsky is exhibiting strength of character and has played better of late since being moved to Dvorak and Anderson line. I'm really not concerned for the kid. If I had a do over I probably go Nemec. It wouldn't be Wright and let's face it, at the time the only two choices were Wright or Slafkovsky.
In case you're wondering, the coaching in Laval is even worse.
Until recently they saddled him with the worst plumbers on the team (pezzetta, Dadonov, Evans) and they're working on his defensive awareness and situational hockey.
The Habs real issue is coaching. They don't have it. They have nice guy Marty who played under Cooper but is not Cooper.
Burrows is throwing shit to the wall shift by shift and the ingame adjustments are so bad people will think it's an intentional tank.
This is a side show while HuGo work behind the scenes. Give the fans nice guy Marty (who had to apologize for his very rusty French) and a first overall to look at and keep buying beers and condos, don't look over here.
Slafkovsky is exhibiting strength of character and has played better of late since being moved to Dvorak and Anderson line. I'm really not concerned for the kid. If I had a do over I probably go Nemec. It wouldn't be Wright and let's face it, at the time the only two choices were Wright or Slafkovsky.
In case you're wondering, the coaching in Laval is even worse.
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Wayward DP
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I mean my early return is, holy fuck what a shit draft.
hockeylover
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lol, this will go well. brave man
in retrospect, both teams should've really had slaf and wright not in the nhl to start imo
leafman101
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Cooley looked really good in the eye test at the WJC. Would be a shame to pass on him in the long run I thing.
Habsy
Not playing around anymore.
In retrospect he needed to be sent to the OHL (Kitchener) to learn the north American game but it's a side show. Something shiny for their fans to look at.lol, this will go well. brave man
in retrospect, both teams should've really had slaf and wright not in the nhl to start imo
The choice wasn't Laval, the coaching their isn't that good.
JackBurton
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Habs got #1 in a terrible year. You must tank in the right years.
Habsy
Not playing around anymore.
Looks like they finally got the memo. If they change a single thing I'll be pissed. Change after the draft.
30th is doable.
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
It's best to prepare and plan for 4-5 years out in the wilderness. Over a 5 year period we drafted
5th - Rielly
21st - Gauthier
8th - Nylander
4th - Marner
1st - Matthews
You guys are 1 year of ~5 in. Now, you probably whiffed on the #1 pick, which hurts, but whatever. It's a long process.
Habsy
Not playing around anymore.
JackBurton
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These fantasy trades by the media are embarrassing. No one is giving 2 1sts for O'Rielly LOL. It's not a sellers market at all. And Chychrun still hasn't been moved. No one is meeting those demands.
Habsy
Not playing around anymore.
Those demands are why Chiarot gets you a first btw
Bleedsblue&white
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I want to understand how salaries can go up when the cap is flat.