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Around the League 2019-2024 Edition

Habsy said:
In all honesty the Leafs have had three high end scorers that they drafted for years and that doesn't guarantee you anything.
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We've done a....mediocre at best job of surrounding our high end talent with good players and they've still carried us to being a 100 pt floor team for more than half of a decade.

Drafting Jake Virtanen or Nick Ritchie instead of Willy because we didn't want to be too skilled, or Crouse instead of Marner would have been a fucking disaster. Start with the best players you can get your hands on. Trying to finesse that shit by finding the right type of players at the draft is stupid, especially with a top 10 pick.
 
They're good right now. We'll see if it's sustainable but this isn't a fluke. They corrected major deficiencies and Laine has actually been good. Throw in a ridiculously good rookie season from Hutson and the team has changed.
 
Habsy said:
It's not a sprint

Michkov wanted Philly. This is known now and reported. Reinbacher will never score like Michkov but if he becomes a minute eating solid defender I'm fine with it. Time will tell.

Cooley looks great sure but another small forward, like Michkov. Just how many can you have? You guys like to make smurf jokes then mock that the Habs don't take smurfs.

The irony.
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Those “smurf” jokes were about Habs teams from 10-15 years ago at least. But they haven’t been a team of petit gars for a long time now.

And one thing I’ve always been very consistent on through the years is that in the first round of the draft in general, and especially in the top 10-15 picks, you draft for skill and you take the best player available.

And for each of the Leafs most recent top-10 picks, I was terrified of the possibility that the Leafs might take some big defensive slug like Redenbacher, or low-ceiling, big truculent forward instead of drafting for skill.
 
Straight up:

XXXXX-Suzuki-Frodo
Michkov-Cooley-XXXXXX

would have set the Habs up for a bunch of years in the top 6, with a legit chance of being an elite offensive club. Slot "the right type" of wingers into those XXXXX's if you insist, but that would be a really nice foundation to build off of, especially if Demidov turns into a good top 6 winger.
 
MindzEye said:
That's a problem to solve when you're good, not a problem to avoid before you're good.
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That works if Sid and Scheiffle are 1-2 down the middle with Tom Wilson and Tkatchuk on the wings

Michkov wanted no part of Montreal and Habs cant solve the problem
 
And regarding Michkov, the “he didn’t want to play in Montreal” stuff seems like copium to me. It’s not like there are recent examples of high-end Russian prospects refusing to go to the teams that drafted him.

And who the fuck cares what he wants anyway? Take the best player and be clear and steadfast that you’re not trading them, like Minnesota & Kaprizov. And being a rebuilding team, Montreal had plenty of time to wait for Michkov to come over.
 
MindzEye said:
Straight up:

XXXXX-Suzuki-Frodo
Michkov-Cooley-XXXXXX

would have set the Habs up for a bunch of years in the top 6, with a legit chance of being an elite offensive club. Slot "the right type" of wingers into those XXXXX's if you insist, but that would be a really nice foundation to build off of, especially if Demidov turns into a good top 6 winger.
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Thats not not gonna work for a deep playoff run
 
LeafGm said:
And regarding Michkov, the “he didn’t want to play in Montreal” stuff seems like copium to me. It’s not like there are recent examples of high-end Russian prospects refusing to go to the teams that drafted him.

And who the fuck cares what he wants anyway? Take the best player and be clear and steadfast that you’re not trading them, like Minnesota & Kaprizov. And being a rebuilding team, Montreal had plenty of time to wait for Michkov to come over.
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Kaprizov came over at 23 , not waiting 5 years
 
MindzEye said:
We've done a....mediocre at best job of surrounding our high end talent with good players and they've still carried us to being a 100 pt floor team for more than half of a decade.
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That's all fine and well if that's your goal.
MindzEye said:
Drafting Jake Virtanen or Nick Ritchie instead of Willy because we didn't want to be too skilled, or Crouse instead of Marner would have been a fucking disaster.
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Speculation
MindzEye said:
Start with the best players you can get your hands on. Trying to finesse that shit by finding the right type of players at the draft is stupid, especially with a top 10 pick.
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Not necessarily. Some teams do it this way then try to fit a square peg into a round hole. There is no silver bullet. You have your opinion on how to build a team, another person has their's. There has been no uniformity in cup winners abs the copy cast league keeps changing its way of thinking or worse, the dinosaurs still think in old methods and eye tests.

Talent is wonderful, I won't argue there but I will argue that it's not necessarily the recipe to success if you draft the same type of players every year.
 
LeafGm said:
Those “smurf” jokes were about Habs teams from 10-15 years ago at least. But they haven’t been a team of petit gars for a long time now.

And one thing I’ve always been very consistent on through the years is that in the first round of the draft in general, and especially in the top 10-15 picks, you draft for skill and you take the best player available.

And for each of the Leafs most recent top-10 picks, I was terrified of the possibility that the Leafs might take some big defensive slug like Redenbacher, or low-ceiling, big truculent forward instead of drafting for skill.
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So Reinbacher is a slug now eh? Care to provide any proof other than opinion?
 
Here come the trade deadline puff pieces. Hughes put in a favor for this one

www.sportsnet.ca

Canadiens' Anderson contributing much more than goals to team's success

It doesn’t really matter that Josh Anderson only has eight goals and 18 points through 47 games, because his impact on the Canadiens’ success has been far more evident than these offensive categories would suggest.
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It doesn’t really matter that Anderson only has eight goals and 18 points through 47 games, either, because his impact on the Canadiens’ success this season has been far more evident than these offensive categories would suggest.
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