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Around The League - 2024-25 Regular Season

MON4NHLTOR4MLB said:
Why do we want another Drouin? We just got him off the books finally!
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LAF serves no purpose for the Habs , only as another local product

He isnt another center we can use

Not a 1-2D we need , isnt a true goal scorer , or a goal scoring power forward

On the very cheap no risk move sure but not even close to a priority we need , plus the immense pressure he doesnt need
 
No harm in looking at deals like this. Just be sure not to lock into long term deals. This guy still has a lot to prove if he wants the jackpot.
 
GEEMAN said:
LAF serves no purpose for the Habs , only as another local product

He isnt another center we can use

Not a 1-2D we need , isnt a true goal scorer , or a goal scoring power forward

On the very cheap no risk move sure but not even close to a priority we need , plus the immense pressure he doesnt need
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Nobody but unavailable players has purpose. You're once again discounting a player for heritage. You use similar verbiage every time. If they're French? On the cheap. Rince repeat.
 
Habsy said:
He's not worth more than Dach mon ami, Dach is a center and likely goes ahead of Lafreniere that year. I think he is under valued but he's not worth more because he was 1OA.
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Dach was coming off his 3rd year also and had produced significantly less than Lafreniere. Plus he had a major injury that could impact his play longterm.

Also theres no way he was at the same hype level as Lafreniere before his draft, not that it matters but you brought it up
 
habs25th said:
Dach was coming off his 3rd year also and had produced significantly less than Lafreniere. Plus he had a major injury that could impact his play longterm.

Also theres no way he was at the same hype level as Lafreniere before his draft, not that it matters but you brought it up
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Chicago was a messed up situation for Dach. Moreso than NYR for Lafreniere.

If Dach was in Lafreniere's draft class he would have been hyped as the #1 because he's a big, fast center. The argument would be they're but many teams would go for the center.

I would like to acquire Lafreniere, but I'm not going to spend stupid assets on it.

Since his junior days I looked at him as another Huberdeau age Hubie took a few years to figure it out. That will likely happen with Lafreniere as he's playing with elite talent in NYC.
 
Habsy said:
Chicago was a messed up situation for Dach. Moreso than NYR for Lafreniere.

If Dach was in Lafreniere's draft class he would have been hyped as the #1 because he's a big, fast center. The argument would be they're but many teams would go for the center.

I would like to acquire Lafreniere, but I'm not going to spend stupid assets on it.

Since his junior days I looked at him as another Huberdeau age Hubie took a few years to figure it out. That will likely happen with Lafreniere as he's playing with elite talent in NYC.
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Hard to imagine a worst situation than being stuck as the 3rd LW behind 2 top 10 LW in the game.

The way I see it, we're probably drafting Leonard, an 18 years old with limited upside, whereas we can get a guy who's the same age as our young core and could potentially thrive as being a guy we depend on in a key rôle, whereas the Rangers dont really need him to be the man.
 
habs25th said:
Hard to imagine a worst situation than being stuck as the 3rd LW behind 2 top 10 LW in the game.
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Perfect sheltered position to learn. He came in at 18. You've got this backwards imo. He would not have gotten the points he did with the extra D attention given to Panarin and Kane.
habs25th said:
The way I see it, we're probably drafting Leonard, an 18 years old with limited upside, whereas we can get a guy who's the same age as our young core and could potentially thrive as being a guy we depend on in a key rôle, whereas the Rangers dont really need him to be the man.
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You have no idea who or what Hughes will do so this is just your gut making you think something is that really isn't.

I take Smith or Michkov ahead of trading 5 for Lafreniere. He's like the shiny new car you bought that's worth 20% less the second you drive it off the lot.
 
habs25th said:
Hard to imagine a worst situation than being stuck as the 3rd LW behind 2 top 10 LW in the game.

The way I see it, we're probably drafting Leonard, an 18 years old with limited upside, whereas we can get a guy who's the same age as our young core and could potentially thrive as being a guy we depend on in a key rôle, whereas the Rangers dont really need him to be the man.
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Panarin is 31 and Kreider is 32.. they will need him to fill that void.. the Rangers still have time to wait for Laf to elevate his game
 
Do they have 3-4 years of patience with Lafrenière, though? Because New York's not going to be able to move either one of those contracts to make room for him.
 
GGpX said:
Do they have 3-4 years of patience with Lafrenière, though? Because New York's not going to be able to move either one of those contracts to make room for him.
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Arguments can be made. Does Kane resign? That's a huge question.

I'm saying I only do 5 if the Rangers give us Lafreniere and #23 and their first next year. Of course we would have to give up some other picks to balance but you get the gist.
 
GGpX said:
Do they have 3-4 years of patience with Lafrenière, though? Because New York's not going to be able to move either one of those contracts to make room for him.
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I don't know, but I think it would be 1-2 years, this year will be big for Laf
 
Habsy said:
Nobody but unavailable players has purpose. You're once again discounting a player for heritage. You use similar verbiage every time. If they're French? On the cheap. Rince repeat.
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Couldnt care less where comes from , not what the Habs need
 
Habsy said:
Perfect sheltered position to learn. He came in at 18. You've got this backwards imo. He would not have gotten the points he did with the extra D attention given to Panarin and Kane.

You have no idea who or what Hughes will do so this is just your gut making you think something is that really isn't.

I take Smith or Michkov ahead of trading 5 for Lafreniere. He's like the shiny new car you bought that's worth 20% less the second you drive it off the lot.
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Smith will most likely be drafted before us, and yes I did say I'd draft Michkov with the pick. If the brass deems him undraftable for whatever reason and will select someone like Leonard instead, then I'd do the trade.
 
Habsy said:
Nobody but unavailable players has purpose. You're once again discounting a player for heritage. You use similar verbiage every time. If they're French? On the cheap. Rince repeat.
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It's the Habs' 21st Century curse.

If we draft first overall, it's a weak draft year.
If we have a lottery pick, the player we need gets drafted just before or just after our turn.
The free agent we need won't play in Montreal
The free agent we need will get a better offer from a US team where there are no state taxes
The player we need in a trade isn't available because we don't have the right assets to offer in return.
The player we want is never within reach so we settle for the player we can get, who is inevitably inferior and doesn't move the needle.
The prospects we draft never live up to the hype.
 
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