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Without knowing the specific facts here, and without trivializing the alleged incident, this type of thing happens relatively frequently on college campuses with fraternities. When I was at McGill there was an infamous incident with one of the frats, involving some guys who I knew, who were eventually cleared of wrongdoing. And then there was the infamous Duke men’s lacrosse team case. Total set-up.
 
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Without knowing the specific facts here, and without trivializing the alleged incident, this type of thing happens relatively frequently on college campuses with fraternities. When I was at McGill there was an infamous incident with one of the frats, involving some guys who I knew, who were eventually cleared of wrongdoing. And then there was the infamous Duke men’s lacrosse team case. Total set-up.
Which is why you let the process run its course.
 
That’s certainly fair.
None of the players are good enough to warrant the PR nightmare even if they're found to be innocent.

As mentioned earlier in the thread, what Mailloux did wasn't even close to as bad as what these dudes allegedly did. He did a really stupid and selfish thing by sharing a picture, granted, but he didn't rape anyone or even physically attack her.

Anyway, we'll see. There's a lot of players like Brake Batherson that were dragged through the coals throughout this whole ordeal that should be very bitter.
 
Agreed, it's the most bizzare double standard in sports. Media scrambles to get a sound bite or camera shot from him, almost oblivous to what he did.
Different era, and over 30 years old. People tends to forget and/or forgive after enough time, and some of those media types were not even born back then. Plus he’s an icon.
 
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I wonder what it is like to be someone like Westhead who basically does all he can to tear down a sport he claims to like and cover.
So he should volunteer to be part of the cover up then? I know you don't like uncomfortable reality messing with your enjoyment of sports but these guys gang-raped an 18 year old girl. Westhead isn't tearing anything down. The players and their shitty personal conduct while representing their country are. You seem to value loyalty to corporate entities more than justice, which is a bad flex for a lawyer.

Let justice be done or Hockey Canada fall.
 
Without knowing the specific facts here, and without trivializing the alleged incident, this type of thing happens relatively frequently on college campuses with fraternities. When I was at McGill there was an infamous incident with one of the frats, involving some guys who I knew, who were eventually cleared of wrongdoing. And then there was the infamous Duke men’s lacrosse team case. Total set-up.
I was in a fraternity at Concordia and saw some things, but it was the 80's so the concept of consent did not require the signing of a waiver. But I remember all the themed beer bashes we hosted. The Carpet Bash - "Bring a piece and lay it". The Landshark Bash - "Hi there, clamcake".

Our frat house had a vacuum cleaner and one of the guys stenciled the name of one of the sorority girls on the side of it. Our old house was an apartment adjacent to one belonging to a sorority and one of the guys drilled a peep hole through the wall into their bathroom. And, naturally, the goal was always to get women drunk enough to let their inhibitions slip. My first encounter with 2 women at once definitely involved alcohol consumption on the part of one of the girls involved.

Ironically, the only blowback we ever got the whole time I was there was when we hosted a bash following the Iran-Contra scandal. We called it the "Iranamok Bash" and the posters featured an Aislin cartoon of Reagan. A Muslim student who's first language was not English began accusing us. "What is this Iran bash? What is this Reagan?" We had to try and explain that it wasn't political or religious just to get him to go away.
 
None of them are ever playing another game in the NHL, possibly even if they're not guilty.
No "possibly" about it. They are toxic to the brand. No team wants people waving placards outside their arenas and no sponsor wants the blowback either. Players come and players go. Not one of the accused players is so good that their teams can't live without them or easily replace them with non-rapey players. If Bedard was accused? Different conversation perhaps. But no one is going to the wall to save Carter Hart's career. He can get fucked.
 
Ok fuck. What years were you at Concordia and more Loyola or Hall campus?
Freshman semester was September of 85. Definitely more Loyola, although I had classes at the Hall Building and even a couple in the old YMCA building on Drummond Street. But I lived in NDG and our fraternity activities were all based out of Loyola. Our beer bashes were held in the Guadagni Lounge at Loyola, where the Interfraternity Council operated the coffee bar during the day.
 
So he should volunteer to be part of the cover up then? I know you don't like uncomfortable reality messing with your enjoyment of sports but these guys gang-raped an 18 year old girl. Westhead isn't tearing anything down. The players and their shitty personal conduct while representing their country are. You seem to value loyalty to corporate entities more than justice, which is a bad flex for a lawyer.

Let justice be done or Hockey Canada fall.
Who took over your computer? You are the same one who wouldn't care if they were on our team as long as they scored a goal to beat the Leafs so the holier than thou attitude don't work on me to paraphrase Watto.

You already have them convicted, sentenced and banned for life without hearing one shred of admissible evidence in court so your appeal for justice is hollow. Remember it can also be justice if they are found not guilty if the legal standard of evidence is not met.
 
I was in a fraternity at Concordia and saw some things, but it was the 80's so the concept of consent did not require the signing of a waiver. But I remember all the themed beer bashes we hosted. The Carpet Bash - "Bring a piece and lay it". The Landshark Bash - "Hi there, clamcake".

Our frat house had a vacuum cleaner and one of the guys stenciled the name of one of the sorority girls on the side of it. Our old house was an apartment adjacent to one belonging to a sorority and one of the guys drilled a peep hole through the wall into their bathroom. And, naturally, the goal was always to get women drunk enough to let their inhibitions slip. My first encounter with 2 women at once definitely involved alcohol consumption on the part of one of the girls involved.

Ironically, the only blowback we ever got the whole time I was there was when we hosted a bash following the Iran-Contra scandal. We called it the "Iranamok Bash" and the posters featured an Aislin cartoon of Reagan. A Muslim student who's first language was not English began accusing us. "What is this Iran bash? What is this Reagan?" We had to try and explain that it wasn't political or religious just to get him to go away.

Not sure I would be admitting that in writing given she could pop out of nowhere and ruin your life by claiming you are a rapist...
 
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