Habsy
Not playing around anymore.
Why is that? If they're good they'll win 16.
Around The League - 2024-25 Regular Season
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GrandWazoo
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Yeah 100 points teams get done in the first round all the time, no matter what the format is.
First round is generally the most fun to watch for me, lots of upsets.
First round is generally the most fun to watch for me, lots of upsets.
we got screwed in 2017 and no one cared, why should I care now?
GGpX
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My problem with the current seeding isn't necessarily about two 100 point teams facing off against each other in round one.
You want to avoid that scenario? Win more fucking games and win your division.
If you look at the current scenario for playoff seeding compared to the old fashion, 50% of the first round match ups are identical. The two division winners face off against the two divisions' leftovers.
My problem is the forced repetition of playoff matchups in rounds 1 & 2. I like diversity of teams in the playoffs, not always playing the same teams over & over.
I want the possibility of seeing a Habs - Islanders series in round 1 one day. Or a Habs - Rangers series in round 2.
Reality is, though, we have 7 other choices until round 3 is reached.
You want to avoid that scenario? Win more fucking games and win your division.
If you look at the current scenario for playoff seeding compared to the old fashion, 50% of the first round match ups are identical. The two division winners face off against the two divisions' leftovers.
My problem is the forced repetition of playoff matchups in rounds 1 & 2. I like diversity of teams in the playoffs, not always playing the same teams over & over.
I want the possibility of seeing a Habs - Islanders series in round 1 one day. Or a Habs - Rangers series in round 2.
Reality is, though, we have 7 other choices until round 3 is reached.
GrandWazoo
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My issue is that I like both. I loved Toronto/Tampa facing off 3 years in a row. But I also like some diversity, which we do get. So I get both sides.
Sal_Butera
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As they did in changing home / away jerseys from white - to - dark / vice versa, NHL should go back to 1 vs 16, 2 vs 15 etc
Screw division / conference system for a few years and blow the younger generation of fans minds …
Screw division / conference system for a few years and blow the younger generation of fans minds …
How about first round/playoff qualification like in the 1980s, entirely based on divisions? Brings out the rivalries/hatred, which hockey does better than any sport. Afterwards, everything is reseeded ignoring divisions, conference, so it's possible to have a Montreal vs Boston/Toronto final (OK maybe not the latter).
So ARI gets an expansion team within 5 years for 1 billion? With Arizonas prospect pool and picks I would rather the coyotes over an expansion team. I don’t understand, is it because he needs 5 years to develop everything and was losing too much per year? I mean it will take years for an expansion team to get all those prospects let alone they might end up with a top 5 pick this year too.
GGpX
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Hockey won't be back in Arizona within five years, even in the most ideal of situations.
The future of hockey in Arizona depends largely on the land deal they're trying to acquire. If they get that land in Tempe, they'll build a new arena and then Moreno & co can start the process for expansion.
I think the reason for the move is obvious, though: The NHL couldn't sustain the losses there for any longer. Salt Lake City's a smaller market, but they have a mediocre arena available until the new one they're building for the 2032 Olympics is ready. Until then, the current arena can have 14,000 or so people in it. 5,000 vs 14,000.
What really fucked the Coyotes was not being able to have the same arena as the Phoenix Suns.
The future of hockey in Arizona depends largely on the land deal they're trying to acquire. If they get that land in Tempe, they'll build a new arena and then Moreno & co can start the process for expansion.
I think the reason for the move is obvious, though: The NHL couldn't sustain the losses there for any longer. Salt Lake City's a smaller market, but they have a mediocre arena available until the new one they're building for the 2032 Olympics is ready. Until then, the current arena can have 14,000 or so people in it. 5,000 vs 14,000.
What really fucked the Coyotes was not being able to have the same arena as the Phoenix Suns.
lecoqsportif
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Yah, I think he was the 13th pick that we flipped to Chi.
Sal_Butera
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With NCAA on verge of opening doors for CHL players, sure starting to look as if NCAA will be at the top of the pyramid of development and even the few homegrown Quebec talents will systematically flow through the collegiate circuit within a few years
How is this going to work
GGpX
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I'd be willing to bet a hefty amount of money that the exact opposite will happen.
This change will actually incentivize players, especially Canadian-born players, to go to the CHL.
GGpX
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The possible change comes due to the NIL (Name, Image & Likeness) rules that have been adopted in the NCAA in recent years. The NIL allows NCAA athletes to be compensated (via companies & numerous others ways) while holding on to the label of "amateur athletes".
As it stands, players that play pro (ie, CHL or Euroleagues) are ineligible to play in the NCAA because they have been paid to play hockey, meaning they are no longer amateur athletes.
So, players from Canada who want to go the NCAA route routinely have to play their 16 & 17 (sometimes even 18 & 19) year old seasons in inferior leagues, such as the BCHL, USHL, prep schools, etc. to maintain eligibility.
So what happens if playing in the CHL doesn't void a player's eligibility for the NCAA hockey?
It means the USHL, BCHL, etc. will all get weaker, as their raison d'être becomes less relevant.
There are a lot of details that will need to be ironed out and rules established, but what I think will happen is the NCAA will receive an influx of 20-21 year old players from the CHL who are too old to continue playing there, and can continue playing high level, competitive hockey in the NCAA.
Also, I believe that once this comes into effect, the period of time a team will have to sign a player from the CHL to an ELC will be changed to 4 years instead of 2. Could give more incentives for teams to pick players, especially goalies, from the CHL that might need a little longer.
GGpX
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Also: The reason Atlanta moved out of there wasn't because the NHL gave up on the market, they moved because the owners of the arena and Atlanta Hawks were selling it to a new owner, and they didn't want the NHL there. Winnipeg was more than happy to accept them.
That's why you'll see momentum to get the NHL back in Atlanta again within the next 10 to 15 years. I wouldn't be surprised if the NHL is up to 36 teams by 2044. Atlanta, Phoenix, Houston, all seem like shoe-ins. Then maybe one of San Diego / Indianapolis / Kansas City.